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From: Mikael Hallendal <hallski@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuilds for kde3 beta etc.
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 14:19:52
Message-Id: 1009311584.8850.0.camel@zoidberg
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuilds for kde3 beta etc. by Daniel Robbins
1 tis 2001-12-25 klockan 16.49 skrev Daniel Robbins:
2 > On Tue, Dec 25, 2001 at 01:10:02PM +0100, Mikael Hallendal wrote:
3 > > Well, it's very much unsolved. Because users don't care about masking
4 > > once they've learned how to get around it. As I said before _beta,
5 > > masking will only hold back some and tell that it's unstable. But we'll
6 > > end up supporting the stuff anyway.
7 >
8 > This is easily solved. Just put a very clear comment in package.mask around
9 > the mask entries stating in no unclear terms that *these packages are not yet
10 > supported*, are *for developers only*, and *are very unstable*. *use at your
11 > own risk*, *not a good idea* and *you'll regret it later* should do the trick!
12 > :)
13 >
14 > > This is just as the /incoming directory which many users started to use
15 > > even though they shouldn't.
16 >
17 > How so?
18
19 The ebuilds in /incoming are untested and should not be used by users.
20 But since it's available to users, users use it anyway.
21
22 I think it all comes down to what kind of distribution we want to
23 create. If we want to make a distribution for those that create it and
24 use-at-own-risk for everyone else (this is all fine by me) we should
25 clearly state this (to users and developers).
26
27 If we want to create a distributions for everyone we have to go around
28 to make users don't hurt themeselfs. Since users _will_ do bad things to
29 there own systems if they are able to. And if so, masking and comments
30 are not enough, imho.
31
32 CVS branches solves these problems (and we have to start using branches
33 sooner or later anyway, preferable when we release 1.0).
34
35 Regards,
36 Mikael Hallendal
37
38 --
39
40 Mikael Hallendal
41 Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team Leader
42 CodeFactory AB, Stockholm, Sweden

Replies

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Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuilds for kde3 beta etc. Geert Bevin <gbevin@×××××××.be>
Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuilds for kde3 beta etc. Daniel Robbins <drobbins@g.o>