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Dnia 2014-07-21, o godz. 21:53:04 |
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"Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@g.o> napisał(a): |
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> Am Montag, 21. Juli 2014, 21:37:17 schrieb hasufell: |
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> > afaiu dynamic deps are broken and not defined in PMS |
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> > still... people seem to fix deps without revbumping, causing users who |
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> > either don't use dynamic deps (it's optional for portage through |
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> > --dynamic-deps=y, although it's on by default) or who use a different PM |
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> > to not get the fix, at worst resulting in broken dependency calculation |
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> > |
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> > suggestion: |
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> > * stop fixing dependencies without revbumping |
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> > * add an appropriate question to the dev quiz |
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> > * remove dynamic deps from portage (afair that is already considered by |
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> > the portage team) |
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> Actually the quizzes are pretty much clear on that. |
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> Revision must be bumped when the on-disk files installed by the ebuild are |
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> changed. |
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> Nothing about dependencies. |
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> This has been policy for a LONG time, and we're not going to change it |
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> overnight just because you protest. |
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This is not an argument. Just because we're doing things wrong for |
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a very long time doesn't mean we have to keep doing that. Especially |
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now that the breakage is getting much more visible with spread of |
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EAPI=5 and subslots. |
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> Now... whether dynamic deps are technically the right thing to do is another |
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> question. It merits discussion, but we need to be really sure about the |
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> consequences of any change. |
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Yes, it does. I'm not sure if it leads anywhere, though. Dynamic deps |
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are a pipe dream. You can't implement them properly, so we're using |
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half-working implementation as an excuse to be lazy. |
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Of course, the problem is that many developers just assume how dynamic |
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deps work. They don't know the details, they don't test it. They just |
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say 'I need not to revbump because dynamic-deps!' Then stuff breaks |
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because dynamic deps don't work. Or sometimes because they actually |
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work and the developer didn't think of them. Or sometimes because they |
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randomly start and stop working depending on the phase of the moon. |
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Best regards, |
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Michał Górny |
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