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On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 14:27:36 -0700 Greg KH <gregkh@g.o> wrote: |
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| - development-sources are clean kernel.org kernels |
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Since when? This is not what we were told when John helped us to move |
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our sparc patchset from sparc-dev-sources to his shiny new kernel-2 |
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powered development-sources. We were given lengthy assurances that we |
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would a) be able to keep our sparc patchset there without having to |
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worry about it b) conflicting with the horridly broken gentoo- patchset |
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and c) it being repeatedly broken by people doing "security bumps". |
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We already know that c) hasn't been happening, and our requests for |
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certain people to show more care when dealing with other archs have |
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fallen upon deaf ears. Now we're being told that a) and b) are no longer |
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any good either? |
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| - gentoo-dev-sources are the current 2.6 kernel trees for all |
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| arches. There is no cesspool of patches in there, and it is |
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| the kernel for the ppc64, amd64, x86, and a few other arches. |
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| Making it the sparc kernel too is no big deal. |
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Of course it's a big deal. We've already made our users change kernel |
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sets once. Now we're going to have to go through all this again because |
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the kernel team don't talk to each other? And you also expect us to deal |
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with people who assume that anything labeled gentoo-dev-sources will |
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include the gentoo- patchset? |
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| I am willing and able to help the sparc team (and any other arch) to |
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| make the g-d-s package work for them. |
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This is exactly what John told us when we switched from s-d-s to d-s. |
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What assurances do we have that we are not going to be screwed over yet |
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again the next time your team randomly decides to change policy without |
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informing anyone? We had these promises already about five kernel minor |
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versions ago. |
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To be honest, given the history on this, I think the ideal solution for |
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this would be an arch-dev-sources which was locked in cvs so that |
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over-zealous x86-kernel and security people *couldn't* go and break our |
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kernels *yet again*. I really don't like the implications that we don't |
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trust other developers on this, but having our kernel being broken three |
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times in two minor version versions is completely unacceptable. |
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-- |
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Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Sparc, MIPS, Vim, Fluxbox) |
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Mail : ciaranm at gentoo.org |
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Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm |
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