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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:31:08 +0000 George Prowse <cokehabit@×××××.com> |
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> > I think you're massively underestimating the requirements of the |
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> > average user, what with the tree as complex as it is these days. |
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> > Most users now: |
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> > * Have to use external repositories |
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> > * Have to handle at least some keywording overrides themselves |
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> > * Have to have some way of managing huge metapackages |
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> > * Have closer to a thousand than a hundred installed packages |
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> > * Aren't involved in development work |
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> > * Expect their systems to work |
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> > |
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> > These are very different use cases than those for which Portage was |
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> > designed. |
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> So where is the "visible improvement"? |
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For Portage, there hasn't been any for a very long time. The last |
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serious improvement for end users was package.keywords etc, and whilst |
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that was one step forward a long time ago, for Gentoo to regain an edge |
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it needs at least dozens more like it every year. |
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Do you know how many Gentoo users are leaving for Ubuntu or Fedora |
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because Gentoo no longer offers an edge? Gentoo can no longer rely upon |
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the competition sucking... |
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> Nope, as a suggestion. Note the "lack of an argument" part and the |
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> quote you missed out: "But they do it VERY productively and |
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> effectively - look how fast they ban the troublemakers and trolls". |
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Which, even if it were true, is besides the point if doing so prevents |
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any development from getting done. And just how much development gets |
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done on the forums? |
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-- |
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Ciaran McCreesh |
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Mail : ciaranm at ciaranm.org |
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Web : http://ciaranm.org/ |
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Paludis, the secure package manager : http://paludis.pioto.org/ |
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