[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork.

[Peter]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:17:10 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> | Care to elaborate?  The wise, all-knowing Zen argument isn't |
> particularly helpful....
>
> It's perfect proof that there are users that are utterly clueless about
> what is best for their system, and utterly clueless about how using
> third party software can cause problems for other software.
>
>
It's no such proof. Anyone who rolls a kernel, takes the time to learn
what it entails, understands what he/she is intending to do, knows the
ramifications of those actions. Gentoo users, in particular, by virtue of
the fact that this is a source-based distro, have to be accorded a
slightly higher level of respect and regard.

And, I certainly do not think that you, 4000+ miles away have any idea
what may or may not be best for mine or anyone else's system. That kind of
presumptuous attitude does not help anyone. Any user can hose their
system, whether you are using genkernel, gensources-2.6.16-r?, vanilla
sources, or Stalin-incarnated-sources-666.666.666. 

Why don't you hose all potentially harmful ebuilds from bugzilla then? Why
leave them up for people to download? Why does the kernel team that was
assigned the beyond-sources bug not just nuke it? Why don't you remove
bash, since someone might do rm /? Why don't you remove tmpwatch?

Standing in the way of an enhancement because you want to micromanage
everyone's computing environment to keep it safe is an impossibility.
Someone forgets to run perl cleaner. Ut oh. Someone updates to gcc-4.1. Ut
oh. Someone tries to get modular X installed, ut oh. Portage 2.1 even had
some surprises for unsuspecting users, like nuking a whole bunch of use
flags. But, are those projects hard masked now? 

Provide the warnings, and let the user decide. Those are my points.

-- 
Peter


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