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From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords - how can we help?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:46:11
Message-Id: 1154094069.3597.61.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords - how can we help? by Steve Dibb
1 On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 09:24 -0600, Steve Dibb wrote:
2 > Chris Gianelloni wrote:
3 > >> I'd say no bugs, 30 days, passes internal tests, being run by users =>
4 > >> stablise, for the majority of packages (obviously, there may be some
5 > >> exceptions...).
6 > >>
7 > >
8 > > Luckily, you're not making the call. ;]
9 > >
10 > > The "majority" of packages are also the ones that need more extensive
11 > > testing. Sure, we could probably stabilize a bunch of the fringe
12 > > packages that hardly anyone uses and it wouldn't affect anything.
13 >
14 > That's actually how I read the first email, was that it's really the
15 > majority of the _minor_ packages that get completely neglected, and just
16 > sits in the tree for months or years marked unstable because nobody
17 > cares. The people that use it have marked it ~arch a long time ago in
18 > their package.keywords because they know it works just fine.
19
20 Well, we would hope that people using the package would file a bug, but
21 this obviously doesn't always happen.
22
23 > THAT stuff I wouldn't mind going through and just bumping to stable
24 > myself. They don't need extensive testing, they don't need patches,
25 > they work, and have been working, and just need arches flagged and
26 > versions bumped.
27
28 I'd have no problem with that so long as it was done by a person. I
29 just don't trust that anything like this should ever be automated.
30
31 Now, we could have an automated system to send out *alerts* on packages
32 that have been in testing for more than 30 (or 60) days. We could even
33 make it searchable by architecture and put it on a web page. We could
34 probably also make it give some information about QA problems. We could
35 even make it searchable by herd. That would be cool.
36
37 I propose that we put up such a page and we call it
38 http://gentoo.tamperd.net/stable/ and make it publicly available. ;]
39
40 > But, nobody likes doing the small stuff, and I can't blame them.
41
42 True that.
43
44 --
45 Chris Gianelloni
46 Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
47 x86 Architecture Team
48 Games - Developer
49 Gentoo Linux

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