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On 11/22/05, R Hill <dirtyepic.sk@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> Chris Gianelloni wrote: |
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> > On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 16:26 +0100, Marc Hildebrand wrote: |
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> >> Chris Gianelloni wrote: |
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> >> [..] |
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> >>> Now, on the topic of the tarballs. |
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> >>> |
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> >>> Give me one example of something that you can do with a stage1 or stage2 |
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> >>> tarball that you cannot with a stage3 tarball. |
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> >>> |
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> >> Answer: Download it in less than 10 minutes. |
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> > I'd love to see you do the same with a stage1 tarball + all the |
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> > distfiles you'll need to go from stage1 to stage3. |
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> What about someone on dialup who needs a rescue CD to boot into their system |
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> after they've trashed the MBR? 88MiB vs 14MiB is a big difference in this case. |
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Erm, why would I need a stage 1 for a rescue cd? |
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> > In case you're wondering, it's more than the size of a stage3 tarball, |
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> > by quite a bit. |
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> >> The question of interest is: Will we keep changing things without a GLEP |
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> >> that should *never* be touched without one? |
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> > Since when is this GLEP material? |
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> Are you kidding? Since it's a fundamentally significant and highly visible |
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> change in the workings of Gentoo. The three-stage build system is one of the |
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> distinguishing characteristics of Gentoo, up there with source-based, install |
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> from scratch, and highly customizable. Every review of Gentoo I've ever seen at |
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> least mentions it. |
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It removes no functionality, it adds no functionality. It simply |
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changes it. How is this GLEP materiel? |
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> For the record, I don't think it matters if stage 1 goes away. Make stage 3 the |
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> Official and Supported Way of installing Gentoo, but provide stage 1 as a |
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> minimal LiveCD/RescueCD option. Make a mention in the install documentation |
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> along the lines of |
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> "It is also possible to do a full install of Gentoo using a minimal Rescue |
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> LiveCD and a network connection. This method is depreciated and should only be |
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> used if circumstances prevent you using the Universal LiveCD. Note that we do |
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> _not_ provide support for systems built using minimal installations, so you're |
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> on your own." |
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> (linkity to a new separate stage 1 doc page) |
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> |
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> --de. |
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