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From: Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal: ban mirror://gentoo/ from ebuilds
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:53:30
Message-Id: 1313772755.2894.0@NeddySeagoon
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal: ban mirror://gentoo/ from ebuilds by Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
1 On 2011.08.19 07:50, Duncan wrote:
2 > Roy Bamford posted on Thu, 18 Aug 2011 17:41:15 +0100 as excerpted:
3 >
4 [snip]
5 > > Just as long as we can provide the patch sets for a period of at
6 > least
7 > > three years, in case someone asks. Thats a GPL requirement.
8 > >
9 > > Thats not to say the files need to be online but Gentoo needs to be
10 > able
11 > > to provide them on request.
12 >
13 [snip]
14 > I know I didn't follow up to ensure it was done. I hope someone did.
15
16 > FWIW, the legal responsibility would (AFAIK) fall on the foundation,
17 > so it would presumably be their job to ensure this was done, and
18 > from that point, that previous media were taken down in a timely
19 > manner so as not to get Gentoo in that situation once again.
20
21 [snip]
22 > --
23 > Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
24 > "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
25 > and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
26 >
27 That's a very interesting point.
28
29 As far as I am aware, under the current organisation there is no legal
30 connection between the Gentoo Foundation Inc., and the Gentoo
31 distribution.
32
33 The Foundation is a legally constituted NFP, registered in New Mexico.
34 Gentoo the distro, has no legal body status at all, anywhere in the
35 world.
36
37 You could make an argument that the Foundation 'owns' Gentoo as the
38 Gentoo produced codebase is copyright the Gentoo Foundation Inc.
39 However ownership is irrelevant. It does not confer control.
40 Control rests with the council, who have no legal ties to the
41 Foundation.
42
43 Think of it as in this example. A member of the English aristocracy
44 owns a Rolls Royce. It is kept in a garage at chauffeurs cottage so
45 the chauffeur is the registered keeper of the car.
46
47 One day, the car driven by the chauffeur is involved in a accident and
48 someone is killed. Who is prosecuted for the death, the owner or the
49 chauffeur?
50 Well, the owner was clearly not in control (he wasn't driving).
51
52 The total separation of 'ownership' and 'control' of Gentoo is
53 fundamentally broken for the same reasons. Enough of it here, its an
54 active thread on -project just now.
55
56 --
57 Regards,
58
59 Roy Bamford
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