Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

[Chris Gianelloni]

On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 23:49 +0100, Steve Long wrote:
> >> Could you clarify whether this is indeed a Gentoo QA issue, or in fact a
> >> licensing issue? If the latter case, this discussion should prob'y go to
> >> the new -project ml if and when, or indeed the user forums.
> >
> > The "problem" with skype is really a problem with our policy.  The
> > policy is really designed for open source software which we can actually
> > "fix" when we find a problem.
> Yeah and that's kinda the whole argument against closed-source. I fail to
> see how that's the problem of a Free software distro? Further, if it's a
> policy issue, why are you guys continuing the thread? Oh I see, when it's
> stuff *you* care about, it's development. Cool.

Alright.  I've had about enough of your constant and pointless bashing
of everything that we do.  Seriously.  Grow up.

Take a step back and come back after you've decided to actually be
*useful* or don't come back, at all.  I could really care less which you
choose at this point because your constant pot shots at us make the rest
of your comments completely worthless and tainted.

As for policy, nobody said that policy discussions aren't sometimes
technical.  There also is *not* another list for this currently, so
there's nowhere else to go with it, especially considering that current
policy does state for Gentoo developers to ask these sort of questions
on this list.  As for whether or not to continue this discussion or not,
this _is_ *our* list.  We can do with it as we please.  If the Gentoo
developers as a whole decided to dedicate this list to pink ponies, we
can.  As I see it, this is still a discussion on how to work around the
policies in place with a *TECHNICAL SOLUTION* for this package, which
falls in line perfectly with this list.

> Er what? Some of us don't wish to be "at the mercy of" anyone, especially
> not some corporation nicking VOIP. That's why we use GNU software.

No, it is why *you* use *free* software.

Nobody is forcing you to install it, either, so your point is moot.  It
is being offered for the people that *do* want it.  Also, I dare you to
look at how much software on your system is *not* GNU.  Oh crap!
Portage isn't GNU!  It must be evil!!!11one1!!

Seriously.  Please take a few moments to think about what you're writing
before doing so.  Maybe if you had said something about FSF-approved or
OSI-approved, but GNU?  We aren't Debian.  Less than 1/25th of the
software on my system is GNU.  Less than 1/25th.  How those
megalomaniacs can possibly even imply that we owe them recognition on
every Linux system is beyond me.  I'm just waiting for the annual "You
should change your name to Gentoo GNU/Linux" email.  ;]

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Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering Strategic Lead
Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams
Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee
Gentoo Foundation