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On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:05 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto |
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<jmbsvicetto@g.o> wrote: |
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> No, there isn't a need for a Council vote here. This is something up to |
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> Releng (in respect to what is in the stages) and to everyone in respect to |
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> what is part of the system set. |
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I don't think many really care about deferring to releng on what is in |
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the stages. |
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My concern is what is in @system, since that has a big impact on everybody. |
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> I've stopped following this mailing list regularly quite sometime |
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> ago. To see this thread is still going on and no one bothered to cc |
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> releng, to me shows a lack of respect for the people actually doing |
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> releases around here, as well as a real lack of interest in getting |
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> this done as you can discuss this all you want, but in the end, it's |
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> releng that works on this. |
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Nobody is intending to show a lack of respect for anybody. The whole |
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point of having a mailing list is so that you don't have to CC every |
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single developer on every single thread. |
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Nobody is required to read -dev, but as was pointed out recently, |
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claiming that you don't read -dev isn't really a good starting point |
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for a complaint that you've been left out of something. [1] |
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> Further, to me, this is a case where if anyone tries to side-step Releng and |
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> go over it with a Council decision, than the council members should be ready |
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> to start doing Releng work. |
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So, do you have an opinion on this that you'd like to share? I think |
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it makes more sense to discuss what the best path forward is rather |
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than argue about who gets to make the decision. |
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Believe it or not, the folks who are on the Council aren't really |
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interested in micro-managing everything that goes on in Gentoo. |
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However, as you pointed out, everybody is impacted by what is in the |
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system set, and the way "everybody" in Gentoo decides on things is |
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through the Council. The alternative is endless threads like this |
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one. |
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No, the members of the Council aren't aware of every detail of |
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everything that happens with Gentoo, and they don't possess every |
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skill collectively possessed by every member of the community. About |
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the only thing the Council can claim is that people voted for them to |
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represent the community, so it functions best when we actually act |
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like a community. |
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[1] - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20140408-summary.txt |
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