Re: [gentoo-dev] Add bc back to the stage3

[Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto]

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014, Tom Wijsman wrote:

> On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 13:22:45 +0100
> Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:47:14 +0200
>> Luca Barbato <lu_zero@g.o> wrote:
>>> Because I'd expect a stage3 to be posix compliant
>>
>> I agree. It's time to replace nano with Vim.
>
> Vim is not fully POSIX compliant; you may find it claim "mostly" in its
> documentation, but that's where it stays at and thus doesn't suffice...
>
> While we're at it, we must make everyone use a POSIX IDE with a ribbon!
>
> Jokes aside, this sub discussion is pointless; if we want results, a
> moderated mailing list as suggested in a reply won't cut it!

It seems like everyone needs to "chill" a bit. Ciaran wasn't trolling, he 
was making a point. I'm sure everyone around here understood his point.
There were no attacks and no "foul language", so can we move forward?

> What is really needed here is a vote by the Council on whether to add bc
> back to the stage3. If the people do insist, another vote regarding
> adding or changing an editor to stage3 could be done as well.

No, there isn't a need for a Council vote here. This is something up to 
Releng (in respect to what is in the stages) and to everyone in respect to 
what is part of the system set.
Further, to me, this is a case where if anyone tries to side-step Releng 
and go over it with a Council decision, than the council members should be 
ready to start doing Releng work.

I've stopped following this mailing list regularly quite sometime ago. To 
see this thread is still going on and no one bothered to cc releng, to me 
shows a lack of respect for the people actually doing releases around 
here, as well as a real lack of interest in getting this done as you can 
discuss this all you want, but in the end, it's releng that works on this.

Regards,

Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
Gentoo Developer
(Releng Lead)