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From: "Rick \\\"Zero_Chaos\\\" Farina" <zerochaos@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] cmake-utils.eclass and bug 475502
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 21:42:42
Message-Id: 51E70FC8.90704@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] cmake-utils.eclass and bug 475502 by hasufell
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4 On 07/17/2013 05:34 PM, hasufell wrote:
5 > On 07/17/2013 11:28 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
6 >> On 07/17/2013 05:17 PM, Chris Reffett wrote:
7 >>> On 07/17/2013 04:57 PM, hasufell wrote:
8 >>>> I know there was an announcement about the upcoming change to
9 >>>> cmake-utils.eclass, however... it is not enough to give a
10 >>>> deadline without caring if people actually fixed it by then.
11 >
12 >>>> By doing that you risk breaking stable packages which is not
13 >>>> trivial.
14 >
15 >>>> You _must_ do a tinderbox run, test that stuff in an overlay or
16 >>>> whatever. You are responsible for ALL reverse deps.
17 >
18 >>>> The way it was done... was not appropriate. Please be more
19 >>>> careful next time. There are still incoming bugs about broken
20 >>>> base_src_* calls. (see the tracker)
21 >
22 >
23 >>> I discussed this with hasufell on IRC, but I'll lay out the
24 >>> response on the list too. Yes, this was my fault. We (KDE team)
25 >>> tested in our overlay, but none of the packages there use the
26 >>> base_src_* calls, which is why it didn't come up in testing, and
27 >>> I did not realize that there were packages that did rely on the
28 >>> implicit base inherit to call base_src_* directly.
29 >
30 >> ...and that is why it isn't permitted to directly use an eclass
31 >> that you don't inherit. While I agree testing could (should) have
32 >> been better, the fact that people ignore the rules for writing
33 >> ebuilds shouldn't entirely fall on the KDE team.
34 >
35 >
36 > It doesn't matter in the slightest whos fault it is or who should be
37 > blamed.
38 >
39 > It is about maintaining stability for the user. Especially when it
40 > comes to stable ebuilds.
41 >
42 > That means the methods for eclass changes must be more thoroughly.
43 >
44 I completely agree with you, the changes should have been tested better.
45 The ebuilds with these errors popping up ALSO should have been tested
46 better. Considering this is a QA violation, perhaps it is possible to
47 add a check in repoman for using something from an eclass which you
48 didn't inherit. I doubt the slowdown would be horrible and clearly it
49 would catch a huge number of QA violations.
50
51 I'm not saying this isn't bad, I'm not saying KDE team didn't mess up,
52 I'm saying a lot of people messed up and the not well enough tested
53 eclass change found a lot of QA violations which should have been caught
54 much earlier.
55
56 - -Zero
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Re: [gentoo-dev] cmake-utils.eclass and bug 475502 hasufell <hasufell@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] cmake-utils.eclass and bug 475502 "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>