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From: Joshua Nichols <nichoj@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Changes to the way Java packages are built
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:51:40
Message-Id: 4495917D.8000206@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: Changes to the way Java packages are built by Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
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4 Duncan wrote:
5 > Joshua Nichols <nichoj@g.o> posted 4495739A.3040603@g.o,
6 > excerpted below, on Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:39:06 -0500:
7 >
8 >> I have written documentation on switching to the new system, from the
9 >> user's perspective, over at our wiki [6]
10 >>
11 >> [6]
12 >> https://projects.gentooexperimental.org/expj/wiki/Using_migration-overlay
13 >
14 > Are there instructions somewhere for keeping to a 100% freedomware
15 > solution? I've been wondering about installing Java, but don't consider
16 > slaveryware a viable local option, thus the question. (FWIW, in the general
17 > case I couldn't install whatever binary legally if I wanted to, since I
18 > couldn't agree to the EULA, tho I've not examined the Sun/Blackdown EULAs
19 > recently to see if this would apply there, as they still aren't
20 > freedomware and are thus still not an option.)
21 >
22 > If it's not yet possible (or no documentation that will work for a non-Java
23 > guy), is there a timetable? No rush or even pressure to do it if you
24 > aren't, but thought I'd ask while the topic is hot. I did try the given
25 > URL as well as the Gentoo Java Guide, but the former seemed to presuppose
26 > someone already involved in testing (understandable at this stage), and
27 > the latter didn't seem to mention any of the newer 100% freedomware
28 > alternatives I keep reading about. Thus, there was no answer I could grok.
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30 This is a bit off topic for the subject at hand...
31
32 That being said... one of our users has been working on using GCJ to
33 this end:
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35 https://projects.gentooexperimental.org/expj/wiki/GCJ_as_a_JDK
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37 As for why this hasn't been done already or more work isn't being done,
38 I believe there are two reasons:
39
40 1) We don't have the same restriction as Fedora and Debian do with
41 regard to licensing. If we did, then we'd have a more pressing need to
42 use 'free' Java implementations to even distribute Java stuff.
43
44 2) No one has stepped up with the desire / motivation / skills to make
45 it happen. Not only that, but the Java team in generally has been
46 understaffed for some time now.
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49 Josh
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[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Changes to the way Java packages are built Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>