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From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: rich0@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UPower upstream (git master) and 0.99 release -> No sys-power/pm-utils support anymore
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 12:09:49
Message-Id: 20140603140850.7b69dff6@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UPower upstream (git master) and 0.99 release -> No sys-power/pm-utils support anymore by Rich Freeman
1 On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 07:35:42 -0400
2 Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > This probably could have used a news item, as the change impacts both
5 > stable and ~arch users.
6
7 Are we going to write a news item every time systemd acquires a new
8 mandatory relationship with a reverse dependency?
9
10 > They need to do an "emerge -1 sys-power/upower-pm-utils" to actually
11 > get the new package,
12
13 But the user doesn't want systemd; so, then why does the user have to
14 perform a manual step every time that systemd has an acquirement?
15
16 > otherwise portage is going to try to switch them from udev to
17 > systemd,
18
19 There is the problem, the user doesn't want systemd; so, why is Portage
20 (regardless of a systemd mask) trying to bring it to the user anyway?
21
22 > since packages like kdelibs list upower first, and portage
23 > has no way of knowing that this is a big change.
24
25 And this is where you can make Portage smarter.
26
27 http://www.funtoo.org/Flavors_and_Mix-ins
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29 We don't have to go through all this if you had a "no-systemd" mix-in,
30 where you could simply make out the choices in favor of the user
31 instead of having to document and announce them all over the place.
32
33 That mix-in could do something like masking the new upower that
34 depends on systemd; when doing so, no more blockers all over the place.
35
36 --
37 With kind regards,
38
39 Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
40 Gentoo Developer
41
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