Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

[kuzetsa]

On 01/10/2018 05:57 AM, David Seifert wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-01-10 at 08:55 +0100, Lars Wendler wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 08:48:56 +0300 Eray Aslan wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 10:20:56PM +0100, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
>>>> * Posting to the list will only be possible to Gentoo developers
>>>> and
>>>>   whitelisted additional participants.
>>> This is so contrary to what I and I thought Gentoo stands for:
>>> openness, transparency, inclusiveness even when these require a
>>> rather
>>> thick skin and result in high noise.  It's a price worth paying.
>>>
>>> I guess I should a) pay more attention to council elections b)
>>> consider
>>> the idea that the whole council thing as it stands now is just not
>>> working.
>>>
>> Wow. I couldn't have said it better.
>> Seems we're turning into an elitist club or something...
>> I wonder how many users we're going to loose on this one. Well done
>> council :-(
>>
> If your only reason to use Gentoo is because you can post to the main
> developer ML, and not because we try to provide a great distribution
> with lots of choice, a current toolchain and lots of customization,
> then you're likely using the wrong distribution.
>

If development of a quality distribution which meets
these goals requires thick skin, something is broken:

I've never seen anything from the gentoo foundation
which suggests that the gentoo developer mail list
should be considered a safe space for disparaging
remarks. Think of the messaging on this - for every
1 or 2 people who are willing to come forward to
address these concerns, there are likely "not zero"
who didn't want to deal with confrontation and the
risk that rudeness and hostile behavior would be
defended.