Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: Firmware cleanup, part #1

[Alec Warner]

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò
<flameeyes@×××××××××.eu> wrote:
> On 16/02/2013 07:08, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
>> What happens why a user runs --depclean and has a masked package
>> installed? Oh that's right, it uninstalls.  My systems do that
>> automatically, but you are welcome to assume "stupid user didn't read
>> messages" if that is easier.
>
> That's not right. It doesn't.
>
> emerge -avuDN blah-blah-blah
>
> !!! The following installed packages are masked:
> - media-gfx/blender-2.64a::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)
> /var/cache/portage/tree/profiles/package.mask:
> # Diego Elio Pettenò <flameeyes@g.o> (05 Feb 2013)
> # Needs a complete ebuild rewrite to use CMake, and a new patchset to
> # unbundle the bundled libraries. Use at your own risk; don't ask for
> # a bump unless you can provide the two needed items.
>
> emerge --depclean
>
>>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:
>
>  x11-misc/makedepend
>     selected: 1.0.4
>    protected: none
>      omitted: none
>
> All selected packages: x11-misc/makedepend-1.0.4
>
> So, I'm afraid you're exaggerating a little bit. Yes, we should look
> better in which firmware packages to remove (because they are merged in
> linux-firmware or the driver is gone), but that does not mean we should
> not ever consider touching ever a single one of them.
>
> And I mean, we've had quick-stable updates that were much more
> destructive than "just" removing the firmware of the nic (which is most
> likely still available to emerge if the user is not using eclean-dist).
> udev-197 anyone?

So because we did things badly in the past, that is an excuse to do
things badly in the future? :)

I do not necessarily encourage developers to make mistakes. Mistakes
will happen (as we are all human) but we should probably strive to put
some effort into not screwing up.

-A


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