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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:36:42
Message-Id: pan.2005.12.12.09.30.11.449574@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates by Jason Stubbs
1 Jason Stubbs posted <200512120911.53976.jstubbs@g.o>, excerpted
2 below, on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:11:53 +0900:
3
4 > On Monday 12 December 2005 09:01, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
5 >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:44:00 +0900 Jason Stubbs <jstubbs@g.o>
6 >>
7 >> wrote:
8 >> | Repositories will be user-labelled. However, all that readers need be
9 >> | concerned with is how to extract the repository name from the
10 >> | news.unread file and how to then resolve that to a directory name,
11 >> | regardless of how repositories are implemented.
12 >>
13 >> See, this is exactly why I'm not wanting to care about multiple repo
14 >> details at this point. There's no specification of how they work and
15 >> what exactly they're supposed to do, and to make matters worse the way
16 >> you seem to think they'll be handled is a really really bad way of
17 >> doing it.
18 >
19 > Regardless of what you think about the current plans for multiple repository
20 > support, the details that readers will need to know wont change.
21
22 Ciaran hasn't stated, but it appears to me if I'm reading correctly
23 between the lines, the reason he doesn't want to mess with specifying
24 multiple repo details right now is that it's getting the cart before the
25 horse in terms of nailing down certain areas of the multiple repo spec.
26
27 For example, if repository-id forms a part of the path and we define path
28 parsing now, then we are effectively defining legal characters for
29 repository-id now. That's an entirely different glep, far out of scope and
30 reaching into other people's territory, limiting how that might be
31 implemented by defining a portion of the id-scope in an entirely unrelated
32 glep.
33
34 Given how heated I've seen GLEP discussion get (and I'm not saying that's
35 /bad/, just a fact), I really can't blame Ciaran for attempting to keep
36 the scope of the proposal, and therefore the debate, down to exactly what
37 he's aiming to accomplish, without ending up getting into an entirely
38 /different/ debate about how he's limiting the future flexibility of the
39 multiple repo implementation. Once there's a concrete proposal there to
40 work with, then and only then, he's saying (from my viewpoint), is it
41 appropriate for consideration in relation to the news proposal.
42 Don't unnecessarily tie the two together, complicating life for both. Let
43 each be argued on its merits separately, and when/if multiple repo is
44 actually close enough to deployment that there's some actual rules to work
45 with, /then/ worry about fixing this to match.
46
47 If I'm incorrect, just tell me to go back in my corner and lurk some more
48 <g>, but that's what I'm getting out of this subthread so far.
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52 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
53 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in
54 http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html
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