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From: Jakub Moc <jakub@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 news item for review: Radiant upgrade
Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 20:37:11
Message-Id: 463E3BB3.4010105@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 news item for review: Radiant upgrade by Ciaran McCreesh
1 Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
2 > On Sun, 6 May 2007 16:00:56 -0400
3 > Dan Meltzer <hydrogen@×××××××××××××××××.com> wrote:
4 >>> Er, making elog logged by default would not solve the "requires an
5 >>> explicit read" problem. Making elog require an explicit read would
6 >>> be far too annoying because most elog notices are noise. We've been
7 >>> over this already.
8 >> Not if one filters it properly. ELOG_CLASSES="warn error" sounds
9 >> like a sane default to me.
10 >
11 > So you want users to have to explicitly acknowledge all ewarn notices?
12 > Now *that*'s a way of making the system useless by overusing it.
13
14 Why would you acknowledge them? They are a different feature (plus,
15 seriously no mail gets automagically marked as read, if you use the mail
16 elog feature e.g. Maybe you should actually try to use the stuff before
17 recycling your 'our experience shows' and 'elog sucks' scratched record
18 once again.)
19
20 Plus, why's this thread been hijacked again for the paludis upgrade
21 stuff that doesn't need any news at all and that's been committed in
22 breach of GLEP42 itself?!
23
24 - paludis already loudly warns about the deprecated syntax whenever used;
25 - drop this "users like it" and "experience has shown" stuff. Experience
26 based on 4 news items is no experience at all; experience based on
27 one-package overlay is irrelevant wrt a repository with thousands of
28 ebuilds; and "users like it" may be nice for one package overlay, and a
29 genuine PITA for a tree with thousands of ebuilds at the same time.
30 Repeating it doesn't go anywhere, nor will it make any of your point
31 more valid.
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34 Thanks.
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37 --
38 Best regards,
39
40 Jakub Moc
41 mailto:jakub@g.o
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46 ... still no signature ;)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 news item for review: Radiant upgrade Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@×××××××.org>