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From: Jon Portnoy <avenj@g.o>
To: Jan Krueger <jk@×××××××××××.net>
Cc: azarah@g.o, Gentoo-Dev <gentoo-dev@g.o>, Thomas de Grenier de Latour <degrenier@×××××××××××.fr>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] suggestion portage ebuild system file modification rights and protection
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2003 19:56:51
Message-Id: 20030907195643.GA6310@cerberus.oppresses.us
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] suggestion portage ebuild system file modification rights and protection by Jan Krueger
1 On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 09:43:47PM +0000, Jan Krueger wrote:
2 > On Sunday 07 September 2003 19:20, Martin Schlemmer wrote:
3 > > So how are any of these going to help if you do not trust us or any
4 > > other developers/upstream_authors, encryption, etc, etc. I mean,
5 > > this *IS* what this whole issue is about, no ?
6 > No. I trust you. But trusting you doesnt mean that the ebuild you checked in
7 > to the tree arrives at my hardrive unmodified. There is no way for you as a
8 > human beeing to garantee this to me. Instead it should be expected that the
9 > ebuild gets modified (by faulty software/hardware/network/whatever or by a
10 > malicious attacker). So this must be taken care of.
11 >
12 > With Manifest and digest portage very much points in the right direction, but
13 > this is not enough, from my point of view.
14 >
15
16 Why is it not enough? Of course, Manifests by themeslves can be modified
17 - that's why they need to be GPG signed.
18
19 The vulnerability at that point is compromised keys, which is why we
20 would have an uberkey so we can revoke developer keys as soon as
21 possible. It's not foolproof, but it's a whole lot better.
22
23 There is no such thing as perfect security short of shutting down your
24 computer.
25
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Re: [gentoo-dev] suggestion portage ebuild system file modification rights and protection Jan Krueger <jk@×××××××××××.net>