Re: [gentoo-dev] List of rc5 problems and questions

Daniel Robbins wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 02:56:18PM -0500, Bruce A. Locke wrote:
> >
> > Hello... The following is a list of complains/observations/nitpicks and
> > questions I have compiled after spending a couple of hours with rc5.
> > Please feel free to correct me and point me to the friendly manual if I
> > misunderstand something :)
>
> Thanks for your great bug report list.  rc6 will be a bugfix-release only,
> so we will be focusing on issues like this.
>
> > 1. If you are in one runlevel (such as 3) and telinit into another runlevel
> > (such as 4) the network devices are always restarted.  If this happens (why
> > is another matter) you need to kill dhcpcd or else your dhcp using interfaces
> > will be down'd and won't be up'd again
>
> The current incarnation of the initscripts works this way.  In reality, neither
> solution is great and the best solution is to go to a dependency-based system
> like jinit or simpleinit, which we will be doing for 1.0.
>
> > 2. Galeon premade package segfaults with Mozilla premade package

The galeon package works after you starget mozilla once as root. It
seems to create
some config stuff in /opt/mozilla, which is required for mozilla and
galeon, cuz you don't 
have write access as a normal user to /opt/mozilla galeon segfaults.

> >
> > 3. How do you set a locale? none is set by default.
> >
> > 4. The XMMS portage doesn't install xmms.xpm.
>

/usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/xmms.xpm

>
> > 5. The gnome menus are empty (though I don't have much installed).  Mandrake
> > and other distributions have a menu generation system, does emerge, etc have
> > such a feature that is being used by gnome and kde related packages?
>
> We don't have one yet, but agree that it's a good idea.
Yep whould be nice to have.
>
> > 6. Gtkhtml and evolution portage problems:
>
> I'd like someone who uses GNOME on a daily basis to look into this.  I'm a KDE guy
> so I can't test this out right now.

evolution does not work atm, cuz it reuqires a special version of gal
and gtkhtml.
That's why there is no binary package for it atm.
>
> > 7. The output of df on my box:
> >
> > [root@kodiak evolution]$ df
> > Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/hda3              6297280    875276   5422004  14% /
> > /dev                   6297280    875276   5422004  14% /dev-state
> > /dev/hda4             23317628   6505336  16812292  28% /home
> >
> > Erm... any way of hiding /dev-state?
>
> Well, although this is a bit confusing, the /dev-state listing is technically correct.
> A option to hide bind mounts may be a good thing to request from the GNU fileutils
> people.
>
> > 8. The devfs/swap issue mentioned before
>
> Fixed on CVS.
>
> > 9. Where is lsof?  It should be installed as part of the core :)
>
> I agree.  For any developer interested in doing this, grab the dev-wiki task (
> to be posted in ~5 minutes) which will contain download location as well.  It should
> be put in sys-apps; see the future wiki entry for more info.
>
> > 10. Is there a utility that lets you search for which package would contain a
> > certain file?
>
> grep -r foo /var/db/pkg/*/*/CONTENTS
>
> Pretty fast on Reiserfs.
>
> > 11. I've seen mandrake and redhat add symlinks from /etc/init.d to
> > /etc/rc.d/init.d... isn't this required by the filesystem standard or LSB?
>
> LSB is more restrictive about initscripts and we'll try to make our revised
> jinit-based system compliant.  We are not as excited about LSB as we are about
> FHS; you know they recommend the use of RPM packages, don't you?  Either that
> or some kind of "in-development" packaging format that is being developed in
> secret.  Doesn't sound like the FHS team trusts the hacker community, if you
> ask me.  Anyway, off topic.

LSB says /etc/rc.d/init.d can be a symlink to somewhere else.

>
> > 12. gdm was defaulting sessions to windowmaker which wasn't installed
> >
> > 13. gnome-terminal spits out a message about "locale not supported by C
> > library", then I see the window for a brief second, and then it dies
>
> OK, and OK.  We'll fix 'em :)
>
> > 14. When doing "emerge rsync clean" it complains that clean doesn't exist or
> > is an invalid command-line option (emerge help lists it as an option)
>
> I need to fix this.  The offical option will me "emerge --clean rsync" or
> "emerge rsync --clean".  I'll update the docs too.
>
> > 15. The gnome 1.4 virtual package didn't seem to install nautilus
> >
> > 16. If you install a virtual package such as gnome 1.4, why aren't all the
> > packages built as dependencies given their own entrys in the package
> > database?  (or am I mistaken?)
>
gnome-1.4-r1 has an runtime dependencie for nautilus, did you try that
version?
> 15: OK, 16: they are.
>
> > 17. With xinetd merged in, there were two entries in /etc/init.d for it,
> > xinetd and svc-xinetd... what is the point/difference?
>
> One starts xinetd as a standalone daemon; the other starts xinetd as a
> supervised process (high-availability stuff).
>
> > 18. Would it be possible to get a ebuild for xemacs-gnome-gtk? :)
>
> Yes; we'll even allow you to write one if you'd so desire :)  Anyone else
> like to do this?
>
We have an old version of gtk-xemacs which must be updated.


bye achim~