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From: Douglas Russell <puggy@×××××××××.com>
To: matt c <matt@×××××××××××××××.org>
Cc: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] install CD bloat
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 17:12:01
Message-Id: 200308201809.52478.puggy@bobspants.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] install CD bloat by matt c
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4 On Wednesday 20 August 2003 5:27 pm, matt c wrote:
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6 > From: "Chris Gianelloni" <wolf31o2@g.o>
7 > Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] install CD bloat
8 >
9 > >vim is only available outside of chroot. It is not in the stages, and
10 > >isn't available while in chroot. Personally, I HATE nano, but I think
11 > >if we're going to have an editor on the CD by default, we should pick
12 > >one and stick with it rather than trying to meet the needs of every
13 > >user's desire. After all, what's next? "I hate nano and vim, someone
14 > >put emacs on the Live CD."
15 > >
16 > >I honestly think we need to differentiate the "install" CD from the
17 > >"Live" CD. The installation CD should be as minimal as possible and
18 > >able to fit on other media easily (such as USB pen drives).
19 >
20 > This is a good point. Here is a "my personal experience" story, ending with
21 > . When I first installed linux many moons ago (don't remember the distro)
22 > vi was the only editor available on this distro. I never bothered to learn
23 > vi. I installed gentoo over a year ago - nano was a very self-explanatory
24 > text editor, and it "got the job done". I've learned basic vi editing in
25 > the meantime, but nano is great for new users. When I needed to edit a
26 > file, I ended up botching the file more often than not with vi (as I didn't
27 > know the commands or movements.) IMO, Nano is much simpler and intuitive
28 > *for non-vi folk* - and the editor in use should be the same both inside
29 > and outside of the stage chroot (it just Makes Sense).
30 >
31 > Matt
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39 I agree with this entirely. I just don't understand what you would need vi(m)
40 to change a few variables for. nano does a really good job and is really easy
41 to use for inexperienced users where as vi is a bit daunting.
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43 Puggy
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Re: [gentoo-dev] install CD bloat Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o>