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On Monday 09 June 2014 21:45:26 hasufell wrote: |
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> Probably because no one mentored them on how to fix these QA issues. |
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> Otherwise... if that's attitude, then that's just sad and has to be |
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> fixed by those who run that overlay (review, contribution guidelines). |
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> And I still think that the top 1 reason people run an overlay is because |
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> it's easier than contributing directly. |
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> A lot of overlay maintainers I tried to convince on getting more |
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> involved even said that. |
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> Even sunrise workflow has proven too slow and cumbersome... look at the |
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> commit history, it's constantly decreasing. |
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> Sure, reasons may vary, but there is not much positive to say about |
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> current gentoo workflow. |
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Since I was mentioned here - I am one of sage overlay[1] developers - it is |
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maybe worth sharing my point of view as someone that is not a Gentoo |
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developer. The recent discussion[2] with hasufell on our overlay might also be |
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interesting. |
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I have to agree that indeed it is easier to contribute to an overlay, in my |
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case because of |
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a) git and |
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b) github. |
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As far as I am up-to-date the main Gentoo repository is still managed by cvs, |
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right? Thats something I really would not like to work with. Not because cvs |
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is inferior to git (I hope no one feels offended) but because now I am so used |
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to and pleased with the workflow that comes with git that I can not even think |
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of changing that. |
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What I really love about github (and I don't think that similar platform |
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differ much here) is the fact that it allows me to comment on /everything/. I |
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can comment on commits that maybe lack something, which could then result in a |
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new Issue; a user could be faster than I and create a pull request that fixes |
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this problem. Maybe there is another mistake which I tell him there so he |
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adjusts his commit and I finally accept it. Sometimes, after some months I |
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wonder why we decided about some things the way we did and I can look it up in |
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the Issue. There is the _complete_ discussion with direct references to the |
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code and all people involved. |
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If there is a lession that I learned here, than that centralizing |
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communications and development in one place was beneficial for us. Whether |
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this also applies to the Gentoo project - well, I don't know. Right now there |
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are several mailing lists, IRC channels and the Bugzilla so in comparison to |
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our little overlay it is quite decentralized. Adding another way, e.g. via |
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github, could complicate the situation but it will defintely get the project |
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more user contributions (if that is needed). |
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In any case, I believe that the migration to git would be a huge step forward |
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and it would attract at least one pontential new developer ;). Any update on |
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this? |
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[1] https://github.com/cschwan/sage-on-gentoo |
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[2] https://github.com/cschwan/sage-on-gentoo/issues/294 |
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