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On 07/22/2013 07:05 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina |
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> <zerochaos@g.o> wrote: |
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>> The council really doesn't have the ability to just instantly vote on |
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>> things outside of a meeting. The transparency of the body requires |
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>> announcements about meetings, and their topics, with a reasonable amount |
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>> of notice. It simply isn't possible to maintain these things and have |
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>> the flexibility to instantly vote on things. Emergency action can be |
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>> taken by many bodies, devrel, userrel, but the council is not expected |
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>> to be the "quick fix" for things. |
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> I find it interesting that the Trustees, which are a legally regulated |
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> body, can take action between meetings, but we feel that the Council, |
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> which is not a legally regulated body, cannot. Legally the foundation |
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> can even take action without any of the trustees present (it just |
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> requires a LOT of members to support it). |
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> I'm not suggesting that we should just issue rapid decisions in the |
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> middle of a flamewar. However, if we feel that all sides of a debate |
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> have spoken we can perhaps announce a pending decision on -dev, |
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> evaluate any responses, and then vote. Council members who do not |
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> feel sufficient time has passed to evaluate the situation can vote to |
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> postpone the decision. In order to pass a majority would still be |
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> needed, so if 2 people vote aye, 3 vote nay, and 2 vote delay, then we |
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> delay until one side or the other obtains a majority (as with any |
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> body, the default is basically no action until there is a majority in |
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> favor). |
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I think the real difference is that most of the devs don't care what the |
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foundation does as long as it keeps the lights on around here. Most of |
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us, on the other hand, seem to care greatly about the development |
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process and key decisions around that. If the trustees need to take |
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emergency action to keep the lights on I trust them to do the right |
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thing. If the council has to take emergency action to allow systemd |
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units to be added without maintainer approval.... well, you see how |
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stupid that sounds? |
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- -Zero |
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> I don't suggest that this should be the ideal method of operation. I |
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> just see it as an option. It wasn't even my idea... |
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> Rich |
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