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On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:24 AM, AllenJB <gentoo-lists@××××××××××.uk> wrote: |
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> Donnie Berkholz wrote: |
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>> On 19:06 Wed 11 Mar , Thilo Bangert wrote: |
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>>>>> |
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>>>>> the presumption seems to be, that as a dev one has to be available via |
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>>>>> IRC. it has long been my feeling that Gentoo as a project could realize more |
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>>>>> of its potential by better integrating people who dont do IRC. |
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>> I think IRC helps to build a more tightly knit community and, because of |
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>> this, is very important to Gentoo. The less close we are as a community, the |
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>> more free we feel to be hostile because we don't see the folks on the other |
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>> end of the big tube as real people. It's much like a technique that |
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>> militaries use during wars to de-personalize the enemy, except with the |
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>> Internet, we start that way and have to apply effort to grow closer. |
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> While it may be tight nit, there's the danger that it's so tight no one else |
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> can get in, so to speak. |
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> I don't think anyone's saying anything like "no more IRC". What I at least |
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> am advocating is that what goes on on IRC gets summarized somewhere in |
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> addition. As I said before, this not only helps keep a "log" of what goes on |
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> for "future generations", but also allows others (users and devs who don't |
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> have time to follow everything) to look in and follow what the devs are |
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> doing more easily. |
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I think that summarizing "IRC" is insane. Remember we barely got |
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summaries of council meetings (which are at a fixed time and date) |
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until we got a secretary devoted explicitly to that task. Maybe more |
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teams should take up the meeting model; that way non-IRC folks can |
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either be on IRC for meeting times only, or peruse the meeting notes |
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afterwards if they are interested in what happened. |
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> I think that this would ultimately help make Gentoo development more visible |
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> and more accessible, ultimately leading to an increased conversion of users |
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> to contributors, if not users to devs. |
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> AllenJB |
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