Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

[Ned Ludd]

On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 20:40 +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 01:55:03PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote:
> > Keep pushing this and the only thing you will end up with is the
> > vanilla flag being removed all together..
>
> Is that a threat? If not, is there a reason behind this?

Yes.. When users or devs complain non stop when they 
don't understand something it leaves us with a few choices.
1) put up with people not having a clue.
2) remove the option so they can't bitch about it.

Option #1 is not fun as it pushes the hand on #2

> > You want a pure 100%
> > vanilla(POS) non working toolchain then go download it and
> > compile it yourself. You will soon see why things exist the way
> > they do..
>
> If you mean modifying the build system to actually work properly, then I
> have no problem with that. USE=vanilla refers to runtime behaviour, not
> the build system. (See use.desc.) Specifically, if patches are applied
> that make sure GCC compiles, and those patches make sure GCC compiles to
> the same program intended by the GCC devs at that release, those patches
> are appropriate, IMO. None of the GCC patches I have problems with are
> of this nature.
>
> If you mean vanilla GCC + build fixes is unusable, then I'd appreciate
> an explanation, because as far as I know, it can work just fine as a
> system compiler, and plenty of people, at some times myself included,
> use it as one.

You use the Gentoo modified one. Regardless of what USE= flags you have
enabled you are still getting Gentoo behaviors.

Think vanilla-sources are pure? They are not. 
They get patched as well with the minimal amount of patches required.
-- 
Ned Ludd <solar@g.o>
Gentoo Linux

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