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On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 16:39 +0100, Richard Brown wrote: |
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> Hi vapier, thanks for pointing this out. Am I wrong to assume from your |
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> responses in this thread to ciaranm's "hypothetical" case that the |
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> current council have not implemented any policy at the instruction of an |
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> external company or organisation? Or under the threat of the withdrawal |
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> of services that company/organisation provides to us? |
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We have not implemented any policy at the instruction of anyone. |
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We have not implemented any policy under the threat of removal of |
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services. |
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> I certainly inferred that the council had been told do "something" or |
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> "outside parties that provide services and goods to Gentoo" would cease |
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> to "maintain" that relationship. While there is some ambiguity in what |
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> wolf31o2 said, it certainly doesn't read to me that this is a preemptive |
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> measure, especially as the first line references already having been |
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> told something in confidence. |
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There was a lot of ambiguity, and it was done on purpose. Nearly every |
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one of our sponsors have mentioned disapproval in the constant bad press |
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Gentoo has been getting. Pretty much anything else they said was in |
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confidence, but at no point did anyone claim that any policy should be |
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made/updated/whatever or some action would/wouldn't be taken. Instead, |
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the Council decided to take action *on our own* based on what we |
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perceived to be a possible threat to our continued valued relationships |
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with *all* of our sponsors. |
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Again, nobody asked us to do *anything* and nobody made any threats of |
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any kind. This was *entirely* a preemptive measure. It was actually |
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done more at the counsel of some professional PR people which we have |
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been speaking with about our image. This person's advice was to move on |
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these perceived issues quickly and decisively, which is exactly what we |
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did. |
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> I admit I haven't asked wolf31o2 about this, but then he implied he was |
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> forbidden from discussing it further. Perhaps you have not been so |
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> constrained by an outside organisation? |
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Then you probably should have talked to me, huh? If something was |
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spoken in confidence to the Council, it would mean all of us. |
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Quite frankly, if you're going to try to use something that I said as |
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some form of "proof" of something and it is ambiguous, you could at |
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least have the courtesy to contact me. |
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There's no conspiracy. Nobody told us to do anything, other than the PR |
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person, whose advice was requested by us. Anything else is bullshit or |
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conjecture. Now, can we get on to our regularly scheduled development |
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and leave this non-development banter where it is more appropriate? |
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Chris Gianelloni |
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Release Engineering Strategic Lead |
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Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams |
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Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee |
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Gentoo Foundation |