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On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:10:52 -0500 J.Rutkowski wrote: |
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> The problem I have with using Sabayon to ultimately install Gentoo is it |
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> takes way too much work than just doing a Gentoo install... |
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You missed my point. I'm interesting not in minimizing total time |
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spent for installation and configuration. I'm interested in fast |
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bootstrapping from "here your box" to "you need to have this work |
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done". Of course proper configuration and fine tuning will require |
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time, but this should be done later, not right away. |
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> You would have to uninstall all entropy applications |
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If this is supported using emerge --depclean or some other tool |
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present in the distribution, this is fine. |
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> and begin using |
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> just portage, edit make.conf (look for sabayon mirrors), rebuild world, |
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> replace Sabayon Kernel with Gentoo kernel, |
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I will have to rebuild kernel, @system and @world anyway, even with |
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GRS installation. |
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> change framebuffer splash from Sabayon, |
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Installing lilo in text mode should be fine, right? |
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> remove overlay and rebuild all over again, and then hunt |
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> down the rest of the Sabayon-specific files. |
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This what is bothers me. Are they leftovers outside of portage |
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control? |
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> You will have breakage. |
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I always have breakage even during casual updates. 1 failed package |
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per 100 built is a very good result. Often I have 1/50 failures |
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(though most of them can be fixed by running some damn-cleaner or |
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updater). |
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> That doesn't even take into account downgrading from ~amd64. |
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I never use stable arches, even in production. Software is just too |
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old for my needs and taste, lots of packages are not keyworded |
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for stable at all. Security updates for stable are often too slow |
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as well. Your mileage may vary of course, after all there are many |
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people interested in stable, but I'm not one of them. Yeah, I file |
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stabilization requests for my packages, work with arch teams, but |
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this is my burden as a maintainer of these packages, nothing more. |
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> If you are doing that much rebuilding, it's faster just to do it yourself |
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> originally. |
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It depends on "faster" how, as I mentioned above, I have use cases |
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where the smallest time from raw box till working environment is |
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critical. I can use any other distro of course and start to setup |
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my Gentoo chroot/partition as usual, but it is much faster to use |
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Gentoo derivative than any other random distro, right? |
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Anyway there are many Gentoo derivatives, not only Sabayon. |
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Probably I should check Calculate too. |
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Best regards, |
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Andrew Savchenko |
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