Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: Jakub Moc <jakub@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:08:41
Message-Id: 44D210C7.90902@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August by Ned Ludd
1 Ned Ludd wrote:
2 > On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 16:07 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote:
3 >> Because it's been broken for ages? Because I've asked the same on the
4 >> bug I've referred to multiple times, as did quite a few other people,
5 >> and the thing is still dead ~3 hours a day? (So uhm, the argument that
6 >> infra doesn't know about is _really_ moot.) Because users complain over
7 >> and over again? Because we are getting tons of duplicate bugs due to
8 >> bugzilla being non-responsive?
9 >
10 > Ok this is basically bitching. Trust me we all know the current state
11 > of things with bugzilla and it's not fun for anybody. I'm sure
12 > however if you practice a little patience I'm sure you will be
13 > quite pleased with the end result.
14
15 A little patience? As in half year is not enough?
16
17 >> Because it's wasting hours of my time
18 >> every day? Because if CVS was in the same state, you'd about have a
19 >> revolution by now?
20 >
21 > I think you might be misunderstanding the role that the council plays.
22 > It's a body for technical matters that effect the mainly "the code".
23 > Daily matters of infrastructure are handled by our infra team naturally.
24 > Funding for hardware is approved by the foundation.
25
26 Well, I think council should care about things that affect Gentoo as a
27 whole, and apparently that's not just me:
28
29 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/
30
31 <snip>
32 The elected Gentoo Council decides on global issues and policies that
33 affect multiple projects in Gentoo.
34 </snip>
35
36 Broken bugzilla affects every ebuild dev, affects GDP, affects bug
37 wranglers, affects anyone else who's using it to track outstanding
38 project issues. How is this continuous borkage not a global issue that
39 council should discuss?
40
41 > You must live in that town where spare hardware and administrators
42 > grow on the trees.
43
44 No, not really. Just that I'd expect kinda more proactive approach than
45 the one demonstrated fex. in
46 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128588#c29 (and a bit more
47 flexible approach to other alternatives, such as HW/hosting offers we've
48 received before) and that have been declined for various strange reasons.
49
50
51 --
52 Best regards,
53
54 Jakub Moc
55 mailto:jakub@g.o
56 GPG signature:
57 http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E
58 Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E
59
60 ... still no signature ;)

Attachments

File name MIME type
signature.asc application/pgp-signature

Replies