Re: [gentoo-dev] [OT] KDE 3.2.3

[Jeff Smelser]

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On Sunday 11 July 2004 04:38 pm, Joseph Booker wrote:

> I will say quite seriously for Jeff that to hate gnome because redhat
> endorses it is both immature and goes against your previous statment *that
> same email* over regretting things - making personal attacks on RedHat and
> the Gnome project, when there maybe be members or customiser on this list
> of them.

I hate them and I can choose to. So get over it. Redhat used to big a big part 
of gnome. Redhat also use to be a big portion of the development code as 
well, thats why they like it so much. What I said was, I hate redhat and 
gnome for a reason. But I never said why. I didn't personally attack them, I 
just said I hated the both of them.. Get your facts straight before you run 
your mouth about how I do this and that.

People say they hate things all the time. Thats not a personal attack, me 
saying I hate them because they are murders is a personal attack. (they are 
not murders I am using it as an example)

Fact is, Alan Cox works for redhat.. I think he still does anyway. I respect 
him a great deal. So redhat does have some good points to them. 

> I hope by your reasoning that you are not using Novell products, as Novell
> uses RedHat's rpm system for Suse, nor Mandrake, Yellow Dog, or any of the
> other RedHat-derivied distros, nor are you using Mozilla, Firefox,
> Thunderbird, or Netscape, as they are affilated with Gnome. I also hope by
> that reasoning that you are not using the 'alien' package on your Gentoo
> system, which depends on rpm. Furthermore, if you have had 'java' in your
> USE flag while compiling gcc, guess what, you can take out all your hatred
> against RedHat-affilated things on that.

None.. I don't use any of it.. Thanks for asking though.  -java on all my 
machines. My system works great too. whats so great about it I need it?

Frankly, thats just a matter of me liking something more. Not because redhat 
has anything to do with them.. I don't hate them that much. ;)

I just disagree highly with gnome and RPM really. you deal with rpm like I did 
through 4.0 to around 7. The hell I had to deal with on dependencies. Anyone 
who has used redhat for any length of time will know that hell very well. 
up2date, I hear, fixed some of it. but I was already on gentoo by then.

What is so wrong with that? Not a personal attack, its just how I feel about 
it.

> All that being said, I hope you try to keep a more open mind, both in this
> mailing list and anywhere else, and try not to hate things it only shows
> your ignournce.

No, people hate kde for a reason.. Some are actually valid points.. I don't 
take offense to it because I use kde. Its their opinion.. get on a gnome list 
and you can just see the hatred towards kde.. :)

Wow, you need to settle down a little bit. You don't know me, and you didn't 
know what I hated about it.

Now lets get back to gentoo, thats what this list is about anyway.

Jeff
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