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From: Tom Wesley <tom@×××××.org>
To: gentoo-dev@××××××××××××.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE split ebuilds
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:09:22
Message-Id: 4238AE1B.7030301@tomaw.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE split ebuilds by Dan Armak
1 Dan Armak wrote:
2 > On Tuesday 15 March 2005 21:25, Tom Wesley wrote:
3 >
4 >>Hey
5 >>
6 >>I've seen several queries regarding KDE's new split ebuilds and the
7 >>version numbers used for specific packages. It seems that all of the
8 >>KDE 3.4 packages have been versioned as 3.4.
9 >>
10 >>Should kmail, kopete etc not be using their own version numbers with the
11 >>meta-packages being versioned based on the kde release number?
12 >>IMO this would make more sense, especially when reading the kopete website,
13 >>finding the latest version is 0.9.2 and then noticing that portage only
14 >>has 3.4.
15 >
16 > In my experience most KDE users have no idea offhand what the individual app
17 > versions are and which versions belong to which kde.org release. They'd be
18 > confused.
19 >
20 > If a lot of users told me I'm wrong, I guess I'd be willing to concede this
21 > point...
22 >
23 > BTW, what do other distros use?
24
25 The only other distro I have recollection of is Debian and they have the
26 packages at the version number of the software. That is, they have a
27 kmail-1.5 being part of kde-3.3.x [1]
28
29 >
30 > Another problem is that there are a few KDE devs who are the same: they don't
31 > bother to put real version numbers on their apps (and especially libs), and
32 > they stay stuck at 0.0.1, or don't always receive a version number upgrade
33 > when they change. I can't find an example offhand now, but I remember seeing
34 > such before...
35
36 Probably. Dated version numbers could perhaps help? Stuff in
37 kdenonbeta probably suffers from never being released or versioned.
38
39 >
40 > And a third problem: it'd make it much easier for us to make a versioning/dep
41 > mistake (think about updating 300 differently-schemed version numbers)
42 > without noticing.
43 >
44
45 I can't disagree that p'masking a bucket-load of packages, all at
46 different versions will be a pain. Also, upgrading etc may require a
47 small army of gnome's (pun intended) to complete the task in a timely
48 manner.
49
50 Do any kde applications release outside of kde's main releases? (I have
51 a vague recollection of kopete doing this, but no others)
52
53 1: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/kmail
54 --
55 Tom Wesley <tom@×××××.org>
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Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE split ebuilds Graham Murray <graham@×××××××××××.uk>
Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE split ebuilds Dan Armak <danarmak@g.o>