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From: Doug Goldstein <cardoe@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 08:50:27
Message-Id: CAFWqQMSFmy2HqDonmcz=hUgfchfUs0FUnn1d1N8JSVAAZD=0ZQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional by Maxim Kammerer
1 On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Maxim Kammerer <mk@×××.su> wrote:
2 > On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Alec Warner <antarus@g.o> wrote:
3 >> flatfile lookups are 2-4ms with hot cache. How much faster is the db
4 >> option?
5 >
6 > I guess it depends on the implementation and how close is the system's
7 > operational situation to an ideal one (whether swap started thrashing,
8 > etc.). A DB is the proper solution that can be improved if necessary
9 > (e.g., keeping often-used parts in RAM). Filesystem where it resides
10 > can be offered hardware with lower seek time or better cache. But I
11 > agree that it is easy to rationalize bad solutions. I don't like
12 > waiting on an "ls -l" in addition to the system not being responsive
13 > due to some other reason, though. But maybe I am expecting too much,
14 > with even PolKit delegating each query to a full-blown Javascript
15 > library nowadays.
16 >
17
18 You realize that files are cached in RAM right? There's a page cache
19 and pages are ejected when the system needs that RAM for something
20 else and they're ejected in an LRU fashion. More than likely those
21 pages are always in cache. I say pages very liberally here because
22 most of the files we're dealing with are less than 4096 bytes (yep,
23 I'm making that assumption) so its really 1 page per file. The result
24 is that the request for the data (assuming mmap here) is handled by
25 just doing a bounds/range check and converting the virtual address to
26 the physical address the data is wired in. The time required to parse
27 the average GNOME single user desktop machine (I've got 44 users and
28 69 groups on that box) is likely smaller than the overhead of a DB.
29
30 --
31 Doug Goldstein

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Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional Maxim Kammerer <mk@×××.su>