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From: Dan Meltzer <parallelgrapefruit@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 12:52:37
Message-Id: 46059ce10601050449x1b52e1e0of8d92fa39067b942@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January by Chris Gianelloni
1 Here are my random two cents
2
3 On 1/5/06, Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o> wrote:
4 > On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 19:57 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
5 > > On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 03:58:57AM +0000, Kurt Lieber wrote:
6 > > > On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 01:17:06PM -0500 or thereabouts, Chris Gianelloni
7 > > > wrote:
8 > > > > Gentoo is not a distribution of Linux. Gentoo is not anything more than
9 > > > > a loosely bound group of developers all doing their own thing in a
10 > > > > collaborative and collective manner. You cannot use corporate thinking
11 > > > > to manage such a beast. We don't have mission statements. We don't have
12 > > > > road maps. We don't have quarterly earnings and market projections. We
13 > > > > simply exist.
14 > > >
15 > > > Which is why Gentoo has jumped the shark and is now on a long, slow
16 > > > decline.
17 > >
18 > > Ok, then what should Gentoo do to fix this percieved decline?
19 >
20 > Pander to the "enterprise" crowd, of course. You know, take away all of
21 > the stuff that makes Gentoo what it is and slow down development with
22 > more committees, peer review boards, and meetings. We need to all take
23 > a step back and make sure that we're all a part of the "big picture" for
24 > Gentoo. You know, subscribe to the group think.
25 >
26 > Personally, I *love* the fact that the Hardened team has differing goals
27 > from Release Engineering. I also don't see how our goals could ever
28 > really be guided by a single vision. That doesn't keep us from working
29 > together to each accomplish our individual goals.
30 >
31
32 Apparently it does. How many huge threads have you seen lately that
33 accomplished nothing? How many threads have people started with great
34 ideas, only to give up in disgust because people cause a huge fuss
35 about small details, and nothing ever gets accomplished? Quite a few.
36
37 > > > > Do you want to be a part of a project that doesn't allow you to
38 > > > > implement some cool new feature because it might make Gentoo slightly
39 > > > > harder to use for some people and that's against the mission statement
40 > > > > so not allowed?
41 > > >
42 > > > Yes, absolutely.
43 > >
44 > > We need a mission statement first :)
45 >
46 > Our mission: To seek out new life and civilization, and to bring Gentoo
47 > to them, by force, if necessary. *grin*
48 >
49 > --
50 > Chris Gianelloni
51 > Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
52 > x86 Architecture Team
53 > Games - Developer
54 > Gentoo Linux
55 >
56 > --
57 > gentoo-dev@g.o mailing list
58 >
59 >
60
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Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>