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On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 08:03:08 +0100 |
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Jan Matejka <yac@g.o> wrote: |
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> > No, categories are essentially directories. |
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> fixed: categories are essentially also directories. |
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Also? No, categories are *essentially* directories: they keep files |
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apart that should not go together. In precisely that way, their names |
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happen to aid in building unique atoms, which you need to be able to |
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tell a package manager (or development tool) which precise bunch of |
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files you want to read/address/target/modify/etc. |
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They are *also* other things, like identifiers for actual categories of |
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packages (hence the name), which may or may not suit someone's needs in |
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finding packages based on keywords. |
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Stating in a GLEP that they're a "giant mistake" means you'll have to |
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polish the document till you have rephrased that into something true |
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and acceptable, or until you have purged every mention and reference of |
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the "giant mistake" because it does not serve the purpose of the GLEP |
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at all. |
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Categories are *essential* to the way the repositories now work, and |
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they're not going away, especially not by way of this GLEP. See below. |
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> > I was asking about tags, not about categories. |
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> The original mails are: |
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> > On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:46:09 +0100 |
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> > Jeroen Roovers <jer@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 15:33:27 -0700 |
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> > > Alec Warner <antarus@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Package_Tags |
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> > > "This GLEP author would love to blight categories out of gentoo |
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> > > history as a giant mistake." |
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> > > Why? |
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> > Categories are essentially tags, only less powerful as they can |
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> > express relationship of 1:N while tags are can express M:N |
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> How is this a question about tags and not categories? |
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The GLEP's statements about categories appear to be a straw man. It |
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basically states that: |
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* we introduced categories to aid in finding packages |
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* but it turned out that categories suck at helping us find packages |
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* so now we need to add "tags" |
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* but we can keep categories because they have proven useful for other |
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stuff |
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You seem to be repeating the same illogical argument here. Now don't |
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fix it here: go fix the GLEP. |
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