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On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Anthony G. Basile <blueness@g.o> wrote: |
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>> Although, I must say, Jorge's is being little premature here, and I |
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>> doubt the Council will act rashly. |
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> So, while I was trying to be balanced in my reply, I'll admit it may |
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> have still been a bit too emotionally motivated. |
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> I think this was really the bit that I was reacting to. In general I |
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> do agree that it is best to let individual teams make the call before |
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> escalating to council. |
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> I just don't like attitudes along the lines of "I'll do what I think |
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> is best, and if you don't like it you can do it instead." It is true |
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> that we're all volunteers, and we all need to be mindful of that. |
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> However, if all Gentoo is to somebody is a place to host their |
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> sole-committer git repo, you could probably do better. |
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In this case I reacted more "emotionally" that I should have. |
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Using your expression above, please consider it as "releng is doing what |
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it thinks is best." As the team lead, I was also expressing that to see |
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something as "ordinary" as deciding if bc should be in stage3 sent to the |
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council to "decide", those pushing for that (and that critic wasn't |
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directed to the council members but those pushing this to council), |
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shouldn't be surprised if releng members get upset and decide to spend |
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their time elsewhere. |
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> I don't really think that was how Jorge felt, and I think we're all |
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> just venting, and my response probably wasn't more helpful than what I |
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> replied to, so apologies to all for the line noise. |
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Yes, I was venting. I got a bit upset to see something as simple and |
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ordinary still being discussed (I believe the last time I read about it |
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had been 2 weeks before). |
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To me, this isn't the first time that someone decides to discuss in the |
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dev ml about releng work, without even bothering to let releng know about |
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it. |
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I know that our policies state that technical issues should be raised in |
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the dev ml, although they also support doing the discussion in specialized |
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mls, but they also mention that one should make an effort to contact those |
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involved in the matter. |
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> For what its worth, this still isn't on the agenda (I'll probably send |
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> out the call later today). I also think that if anybody is feeling |
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> really frustrated over the content of stage3/@system and so on, |
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> they're probably best off directing that frustration towards getting |
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> something like mix-ins supported. :) Gentoo is about choice, but we |
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> can only offer the choices that our tools support. |
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> -- |
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> Rich |
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Regards, |
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Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto |
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Gentoo Developer |
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