Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: Lares Moreau <lares.moreau@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:36:43
Message-Id: 1136226795.8779.10.camel@localhost
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January by Lance Albertson
1 On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 12:14 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
2 > Mike Frysinger wrote:
3 > Gentoo has been missing some kind of direction/goal for some time now.
4 > Looking back at the last two years, what are the major
5 > changes/accomplishments that we have done? Granted, I know there has
6 > been great strides in improvement in some things, but I really wonder
7 > about any ground breaking enhancements.
8 >
9 > Since the council is the closest representation to a leader we have, I'd
10 > like to ask if they can come up with some kind of global goals for 2006
11 > and beyond. You don't need to come up with goals by this meeting if you
12 > haven't had time, but at least by the February meeting. Each group can
13 > have their own goals, but we lack any overall binding goals or
14 > direction. We've brought on numerous devs in the past year, and I have
15 > yet to see a huge improvement in QA or anything else. Numbers aren't
16 > everything. If anything, it makes it harder to maintain good QA.
17 >
18 > There's a lot of people out there frustrated with Gentoo because of the
19 > lack of QA and direction. Package foo changes a bunch of config
20 > locations, package bar gets upgraded and causes a bunch of QA
21 > nightmares. At least from an admin point of view, Gentoo has gotten
22 > harder to maintain. Granted, thats a question for Gentoo itself. Who
23 > exactly are we catering to? Power users? New users? We can't satisfy
24 > everyone out there and need to draw a line of how much we'll devote to
25 > keeping the new user from destroying their system, etc.
26 >
27 > I'm not sure of the exact solution. Its just been pretty frustrating
28 > lately hearing folks complain about this and that when I know that we
29 > could do so much better. Maybe we're just happy with being where we're
30 > at. I know I'm not. There's a niche that Gentoo fits really well and I
31 > think we should focus on perfecting that niche instead of trying to be
32 > better than distroA or distroB.
33 >
34 > Ok, thats all my ranting for today. Hopefully I didn't start off the
35 > next world flamewar :-)
36 >
37 > Cheers-
38
39 I have been involved with many Volunteer organisations over the last
40 couple years. Not all computer related. Something Gentoo is notably
41 missing is a Mission Statement. IMO a Mission statement acts as a beacon
42 on the horizon, allowing us to have a gauge against which to measure our
43 progress. In the process of discussing and generating this statement the
44 issues mentioned above, can be ironed out and/or flamed about.
45
46 -Lares
47
48 --
49 Lares Moreau <lares.moreau@×××××.com> | LRU: 400755 http://counter.li.org
50 lares/irc.freenode.net |
51 Gentoo x86 Arch Tester | ::0 Alberta, Canada
52 Public Key: 0D46BB6E @ subkeys.pgp.net | Encrypted Mail Preferred
53 Key fingerprint = 0CA3 E40D F897 7709 3628 C5D4 7D94 483E 0D46 BB6E

Attachments

File name MIME type
signature.asc application/pgp-signature

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January Lance Albertson <ramereth@g.o>