Re: [gentoo-dev] Some suggestions

[Steven Elling]

On Sunday 07 September 2003 09:56, Jan Krueger wrote:
> On Sunday 07 September 2003 10:48, Martin Schlemmer wrote:
> > On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 10:19, Troy Dack wrote:
> > > "Gentoo moves pretty fast; if you don't stop and look around once and
> > > awhile, you could miss out."
> >
> > Amen
>
> Thats not just Amen, that actually _is_ a big Problem if you are
> administrating some servers that are supposed to provide high quality
> services.
>
> One of the reasons for this is, as good as it is and i like it very much,
> portage. And a very timeconsuming thing is having to update things when
> there is no need to do so. I could easily bypass this problem by creating
> my own portage tree and modifying ebuilds. Some do so. That can get
> timeconsuming, especially when the official portage tree changes a lot in
> basic ebuilds, and additionally i would loose some very nice portage
> features. So far i came to the conclusion not to use gentoo on my servers
> and instead join gentoo-dev. I am happy to see that there is some progess
> with portage as can be verified on the project pages :)
>
> Having to update comments in some configuration files on each of the
> servers is silly and a waste of time that someone has to pay for. No need
> for this.

Here is another point I just remembered.  Yes, using etc-update to "update 
things when there is no need to do so" does not take that long... on a 
single machine it is just an annoyance.  But, I've been the administrator 
of over 350 UNIX servers.  Hell, I've been part of a small group 
responsible for over 3000 UNIX servers.  Image if all of them were gentoo 
and you had to run etc-update on all of them.  Would you be a happy camper?  
Maybe after you got done and set up shop in the nearest clock tower. 8-)


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