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On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:55 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." |
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<phajdan.jr@g.o> wrote: |
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> Hey people, what are we going to do with bugs like: |
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> <https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421839> |
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> <https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=445848> |
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> I'd like to help with things. Is the process of building livecd .isos |
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> and stages documented somewhere? I'd like to reproduce problems locally, |
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> work on fixes, and join the release teams. |
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> I also think points made at |
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> <https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438234> are very reasonable, |
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> and we should do more testing of published media/stages. |
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> The serious problem here is that we need *new* users. A non-working |
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> install CD is a really bad thing here, don't you think? ;-) |
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> Again, I'm willing to do the work, just need some documentation/pointers. |
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> Paweł |
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Indeed, it is a problem. Fortunately the missing /run was confirmed |
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fixed earlier today on IRC, so that should be resolved shortly and |
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with it the second bug you mention. |
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The main problem here is that it's really easy to break the release |
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media. Mistakes happen and are a normal part of development, but for |
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instance stabilizing linux-headers-3.6 (bug 443532) with multiple |
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outstanding bugs caused some completely predictable breakage. |
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I have never once been able to grab a portage snapshot and build a |
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stage 1, 2, 3 series from it without encountering at least a couple of |
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problems with the tree. |
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I think we should consider things that break release media serious |
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regressions. I don't know what that entails specifically, but whether |
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it need be QA bashing down your door or a quick fix or revert, it sure |
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would be nice to get Gentoo to a place where release media always |
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works. |
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In any case, we'd love some extra help. jmbsvicetto and armin76 have |
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been managing all of the autobuilds, to my knowledge, for a long time. |
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catalyst could also use some work. Spend a day or so building some |
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stages and I have no doubt you'd find things you want to change. :) |
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In short, I think the conversation we should be having should be about |
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how to avoid breaking release builds and how to quickly fix problems |
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when they're discovered. |
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Thanks, |
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Matt |
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