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From: "Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Summary for 15 March 2007 special council meeting on CoC
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:10:35
Message-Id: 20070316050745.GA20755@curie-int.orbis-terrarum.net
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: Summary for 15 March 2007 special council meeting on CoC by Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
1 On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 04:35:00AM +0000, Duncan wrote:
2 > * "If you perceive a breach of the Code of Conduct guidelines, let the
3 > proctors know." How? The council's email address is given for appeals,
4 > but no general proctor address is listed. (At least none that I saw, even
5 > after searching, so if it's there, it needs to be made rather more
6 > prominent.) proctors@g.o a reasonable alias? Mentioning it right
7 > after the above quoted sentence should work, I think.
8 There isn't one yet, but proctors@ or reporting on BugZilla will
9 probably work fine as soon as kingtaco and kloeri actually get the
10 initial proctors together.
11
12 > * "To prevent conflicts of interest, Council members may not perform the
13 > duties of a proctor." Great! There is however one potential problem, if
14 > the summary post suggestion making current forum mods and etc proctors by
15 > default becomes policy.
16 I think you might have misread this, kloeri and kingtaco were going to
17 look amongst the #gentoo ops, and the forums moderators for initial
18 proctors, and seemant and g2boojum for the mailing lists. Who they are
19 is not yet set at all, just that those are some of the initial
20 candidates.
21
22 > That is, global mods have status as Gentoo
23 > staff, and if I'm not mistaken (it's possible there's a restriction I'm
24 > not aware of), nothing until now has prevented them from running for
25 > council if they decided to. The implication here is that mods, as
26 > proctors, are forbidden from being council members (unless they give up
27 > their mod status, but if that's their only or single major role in
28 > Gentoo, that's asking them to do /nothing/ but be a council member during
29 > their council term, if elected). Was that really intended? Perhaps it
30 > was, but if not, maybe a clause enumerating that exception and specifying
31 > that they simply abstain due to conflict of interest (possibly with a
32 > designated participating in proctor decisions in their place, how is such
33 > alternative chosen?) should be proposed for addition.
34 I think you missed one thing. From the council page:
35 "Only Gentoo developers may be nominated"
36 Thus your corner-case of a moderator that does nothing else wanting to
37 become a council member is not valid, because the moderator is not a
38 developer, if he were, he would be doing other things as well.
39
40 > * Building on the designated alternative idea, what about altering GLEP
41 [snip complexity]
42 > of interest.
43 See the 20060914 council meeting where we discussed conflicts of
44 interest and reached the conclusion that we should act professionally
45 (and impartially) if possible, and abstain from a matter if that was not
46 possible (example in the meeting was kloeri being the lead of devrel).
47
48 --
49 Robin Hugh Johnson
50 Gentoo Linux Developer & Council Member
51 E-Mail : robbat2@g.o
52 GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Summary for 15 March 2007 special council meeting on CoC Steve Long <slong@××××××××××××××××××.uk>
[gentoo-dev] Re: Summary for 15 March 2007 special council meeting on CoC Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>