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From: Georgi Georgiev <chutz@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] C++ herd proposal
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 05:39:42
Message-Id: 20050920053718.GA28292@ols-dell.iic.hokudai.ac.jp
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] C++ herd proposal by Christian Parpart
1 maillog: 20/09/2005-07:21:08(+0200): Christian Parpart types
2 > On Monday 19 September 2005 15:22, warnera6 wrote:
3 > > Mark Loeser wrote:
4 > > > Paul de Vrieze wrote:
5 > > >> I think that dev-util is a very specific category containing
6 > > >> development utilities of some sort. There might be some
7 > > >> misclassifications in them, but from a user perspective I don't really
8 > > >> care about the language anything is written in. As C++ is so
9 > > >> widespread I don't think that anything but app-misc or the like should
10 > > >> be moved into a dev-cpp category.
11 > > >
12 > > > This isn't for what the package is written in, but more for what the
13 > > > package is for. If the package is a utility for use when doing coding
14 > > > with C++, like the ones I listed, then I think it should be in dev-cpp.
15 > > > That's what the metadata for the category describes it to be.
16 > > >
17 > > > Mark
18 > >
19 > > Once again I'd like to point out that organizing packages in the tree by
20 > > category is a stupid idea for this very reason.
21 >
22 > and what's *your* certain proposal then?
23
24 That's been discussed a number of times already. The best idea is to
25 leave the categories alone and forget that the category means anything.
26 Or, to throw the ball back in your court, could *you* suggest
27 alternatives that accomplish the following:
28
29 (quoting [1]:)
30
31 More precisely, what I'd like to see, in order of preference, is
32
33 - that package in my overlay that has net-wireless/gnome-phone-manager
34 in its *DEPENDs to work for as long as needed
35 - the net-wireless/gnome-phone-manager that I have in my overlay to work
36 for as long as needed
37 - my net-wireless/gnome-phone-manager binary packages to work without
38 having to be "fixpackage"d
39 - the location of the ebuilds for net-wireless/gnome-phone-manager to
40 stay in the same physical path on my filesystem
41
42 end quote
43
44 I would grade the above features as "vital", "badly needed", "happy to
45 see it done", "cosmetic". I.e., even solving only the first one is
46 enough, though if you could get to number two it would be better.
47
48 1:
49 http://groups.google.com/group/linux.gentoo.dev/tree/browse_frm/thread/26b3b93fe16de00c/3ffe93800adbc578?fwc=1#o3ffe93800adbc578
50
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Replies

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] C++ herd proposal Alin Nastac <mrness@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] C++ herd proposal "Kevin F. Quinn" <kevquinn@g.o>