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From: Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 20:28:57
Message-Id: 56C0E34C.7020201@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider by Rich Freeman
1 On 02/14/2016 09:17 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
2 > On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Brian Dolbec <dolsen@g.o> wrote:
3 >> On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 11:00:30 -0500
4 >> Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
5 >>
6 >>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o>
7 >>> wrote:
8 >>>> If, for any reason, eudev should be abandoned - we can just change
9 >>>> the virtual back. One-line change.
10 >>> Which is precisely the corresponding argument for not switching the
11 >>> default to eudev in the first place.
12 >>>
13 >> OH, my, this is looking more like you are being paid by systemd peeps...
14 > Nobody has ever paid me to do anything involving open-source software,
15 > systemd or otherwise.
16 >
17 > My point is just that there is no need to change today, because:
18 > 1. udev works just fine today
19 > 2. If udev doesn't work just fine in the future, we can just change
20 > the virtual. One-line change.
21 >
22 > That's all. I'm not saying that there might not be other reasons to
23 > change the virtual.
24 >
25 > I'm just saying that the possibility that udev might break in the
26 > future isn't any more a reason to change the virtual than the
27 > possibility that eudev might be abandoned in the future.
28 >
29 > I love it when Patrick violently agrees with me. :)
30 >
31 Eh yes. If we can avoid a problem we better wait until there is visible
32 breakage so we can heroically run around like headless chickens and
33 people see that we do something.
34
35 You're definitely of the "Fireman Sysadmin" type that doesn't want to do
36 preventative maintenance :)
37
38
39 Why are you so insistent on controlling something that doesn't even
40 affect you? I mean ... the only difference for you would be that from a
41 default stage3 you do "emerge -C eudev" instead of "emerge -C udev" and
42 then you're on your way.
43
44 As far as users are concerned, most don't care and won't see a
45 difference, and those that care seem to be strongly in support of having
46 eudev ...

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