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On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 21:21:51 -0500 |
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Michael Orlitzky <mjo@g.o> wrote: |
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> On 01/14/2014 09:09 PM, William Hubbs wrote: |
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> > After the package has been sitting in ~arch for 90 days with an open |
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> > stable request with no blockers that the arch team has not taken any |
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> > action on. We are not talking about randomly yanking package |
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> > versions, just doing something when arch teams are not responsive, |
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> > and it seems that the cleanest thing to do would be to remove the |
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> > old versions. |
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> People running stable value... stability. |
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gentoo-sources-3.10.25 is stable on the most important arches; but, |
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other arches are left in the dark with a stable 3.10.7(-r1). Now, what |
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is well known is that kernel.org upstream backports mostly known fixes; |
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as their goals is for this long term stable branch to increase the |
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value of what you claim people running stable need... stability. |
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But, as those people running stable on those arches are stuck on |
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3.10.7(-r1); heh, they're not running the more stable kernel at all. |
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> I would much rather wait for the arch teams to get un-busy than to be |
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> forced to upgrade to something untested. |
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If they get stabilization requests faster than they can stabilize, then |
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they will remain busy for as long as we don't get manpower to turn |
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around the tide; and as mentioned in the mail of a few minutes ago, |
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there are other options possible too. Forcing is just one of them. |
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> Why would I care if it takes another month? |
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What about another year? Or ten years? Why would users care? |
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> Strictly from a user's perspective. I don't, unless I do, in which |
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> case I know that I do, and I could just keyword the thing if I wanted |
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> to. |
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This is the exact same argument as in your other mail, which is your |
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point of view; this is under the assumption that you know that |
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stabilization is worsening over time, which users may not perceive. |
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With kind regards, |
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Tom Wijsman (TomWij) |
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Gentoo Developer |
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