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On 6/28/05, Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o> wrote: |
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> > I think the current suggestion in the GLEP is the best we can |
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> > achieve. Old moderators may take the quiz, new moderators must. Given |
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> > enough time all old moderators may retire sooner or later and one day |
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> > all active moderators will be official. |
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> I just don't see it the same way as you. I agree with having all new |
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> *global* moderators taking the quiz. However, I completely disagree |
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> with you that we should have *some* global moderators that have become |
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> official Gentoo representatives, while others have not. It simply |
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> causes too much confusion and makes things a serious pain to manage. |
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> Either the forums become a much more controlled (as in global mods have |
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> to be staff) environment, or they stay the same. I just don't see how |
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> any middle ground would be feasible without an enormous amount of |
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> managerial overhead that seems like a complete waste of time to me. |
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What I do not understand here is where is the confussion. We accept |
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the fact that if any mod/admin wants to become staff, he's got to take |
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the quiz. In our first version of the GLEP, there was a backwards |
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compatibility section that explained that existing mods/admins |
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wouldn't have to take the quiz. That was our internal global consensus |
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and obviously the rest of existing developers do not agree with it. |
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It's just that you do not let us take care of our own things. |
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Even thought that, we did agree about the quiz thing. Unfortunately, |
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some people of our team, with who we agreed on an initial instance are |
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not frustrated by this. So the best solution I see so everyone gets |
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his share and have an intermediate position, nor our initial consensus |
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nor the strict proposal of developers. That is to say, let every |
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single mod decide if he/she wants to become Gentoo Staff or not. |
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As I said above, I do not understand why it is so confusing. |
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Mods/admins that do not become staff, would retire sooner or later as |
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stated by Haas Wernfried, so in the end all mods/admins will be |
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official Gentoo Staff. We could have a transitory time in here for |
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them. |
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About the language: all global mods do speak (write) English fluently. |
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That is too obvious. Global Mods and Admins can take the quiz in |
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English with no problem. The problem comes with our fellow |
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International Forum Mods, who do not have to meet that requirement as |
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they won't be doing their job in English. This means that their |
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English level can be low enough, just to keep up the communication |
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with the rest of the team. We also have to think that many people in |
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the Gentoo Forums do not have a good English level and precisely |
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*that* is the reason International Forums exist. If everyone had a |
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good English level, International Forums and International Forum |
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Moderators wouldn't be required, but that's not the case. |
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Ioannis Aslanidis |
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<deathwing00[at]gentoo.org> 0xB9B11F4E |
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<deathwing00[at]forums.gentoo.org> 0xC2539DA3 |
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<aioannis[at]tinet.org> 0xF202D067 |
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<dwcommander[at]users.sourceforge.net> |
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Hellenic Gentoo GNU/Linux project manager (http://hellenicgentoo.sf.net) |
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FIRECOPS++ project manager (http://firecops.sf.net) |
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Digger Realoaded (http://digger-reloaded.sf.net) |
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Gentoo Forums Global Moderator (http://forums.gentoo.org) |
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Computer Engineering student at Universitat Rovira i Virgili |
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