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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@×××××××.org>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:40:10
Message-Id: 20070303073712.39fdf611@snowdrop
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting by Mike Frysinger
1 On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 02:18:45 -0500 Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o>
2 wrote:
3 > On Saturday 03 March 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
4 > > Why is PMS considered so important that it might have a deadline
5 > > imposed upon it by the Council?
6 >
7 > why is an EAPI spec considered important ? it should be plainly
8 > obvious why something like an EAPI standard matters so much to Gentoo
10 I'd like it spelt out please.
12 > > As far as I'm aware, nothing like this has been done before.
13 >
14 > so ? letting projects slide in the past is no justification to let
15 > projects in the future slide
17 So why not start by imposing deadlines upon more important projects
18 like Portage USE deps, a Portage GLEP 42 implementation, a Portage GLEP
19 23 implementation, a stable Portage API, tree-wide GPG signing and
20 things that users really care about? Is PMS really more important than
21 any of these?
23 > > Now, if there's a good reason for the Council imposing a deadline,
24 > > there's a pretty decent chance that said deadline will be met. If
25 > > the Council can justify why it needs PMS done in a hurry, PMS can
26 > > end up being ready within a very short timeframe. If the Council
27 > > can't justify the deadline, it will end up being done within a not
28 > > so short timeframe, since all the PMS authors are working upon
29 > > several things and won't make PMS top priority without good reason.
30 >
31 > the portage people have things marked for EAPI=1 which are sitting
32 > indefinitely (some features which for sure i want to use myself), but
33 > we cant really tag EAPI=0 final until we have a spec now can we ?
35 Sure you can. It's easy to say "ebuilds that need to rely upon features
36 x, y and z must use EAPI=1, and for everything else continue as has
37 been done in the past until someone says otherwise".
39 --
40 Ciaran McCreesh
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Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting Simon Stelling <blubb@g.o>