Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

[Chris Gianelloni]

On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 19:50 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> | #1. Can paludis work with catalyst?
>
> No. Nor will it ever, nor will it need to.

To be used for building a Gentoo release, yes it will.

>
> | #2. Can paludis build all of the release materials required by the
> | Release Engineering release guidelines?
>
> No. Nor will it ever, nor will it need to.

To be used for building a Gentoo release, yes it will.

>
> | #3. Can paludis build a portage-compatible VDB that can be used by the
> | Gentoo Linux Installer?
>
> No. Nor will it ever, nor will it need to.

To be used for building a Gentoo release, yes it will.

> Your claim, specifically, was "It *is* essential if paludis were to
> ever be used for release building.". There is more than one way to skin
> a cat, and some of those ways don't involve getting blood all over the
> floor.

Sure, there's more than one way to build a release.  However, there's
only *one* way to build an official Gentoo release.  It sounds like
Paludis falls short on this 100%.

My recommendation, as Release Engineering Strategic Lead, is that no
profiles be added to the tree, nor any modifications be made to any
current profile, including base or the profiles directory, until such
time that Paludis is actually a usable package manager for building a
Gentoo release.  I also recommend that the package is masked in all
Gentoo profiles where a release is built against, since again, it is
100% incompatible and upstream has now said that they have no intentions
on making it compatible.  As I see it, the original question posed to
this list is now a non-issue.  It will *never* be portage compatible
enough, according to the lead developer, to ever be usable as a portage
replacement or alternative.

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
x86 Architecture Team
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux