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From: "Nathan L. Adams" <nadams@××××.org>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Closing bugs [was: New Bugzilla HOWTO]
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 19:51:53
Message-Id: 42D02BF0.3010207@ieee.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Closing bugs [was: New Bugzilla HOWTO] by Marco Matthies
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4 Marco Matthies wrote:
5 > Nathan L. Adams wrote:
6 >
7 >>Jory, I take issue with that. I am not ranting. I am proposing a way to
8 >>*improve* QA.
9 >
10 >
11 > Some thoughts from a humble user:
12 >
13 > Any improvement must neither excessively waste developer nor user time,
14 > it is the most scarce resource. To optimize this, the common case must
15 > be made fast, and the common case is that the bug has been truly fixed
16 > when it has been closed.
17 >
18 > The person reporting the bug can reopen the bug, as he/she is in a
19 > perfect position to test the fix. You can't have the people (developers)
20 > who are already the busiest spend significant time recreating bugs and
21 > testing the fix, just to find out that, yes indeed, it has been fixed.
22 >
23 > Sincerely,
24 > Marco
25
26 I don't think any of the devs would suggest that *any* fix should be
27 accepted without first testing it (under the current process). If you
28 don't believe me, submit it an ebuild and keyword it as stable on a
29 platform that you have not tested it on. The change I'm suggesting is
30 having either the reporter or the Team Lead verify that the 'fix'
31 actually works.
32
33 Also, in the case were the 'fix' doesn't actually fix the bug, you waste
34 alot more development time by letting it slip through and having to
35 'fix' it again later. So you can justify the time cost now, with time
36 saved later.
37
38 But then again, developer time *is* a very scarce resource. That's why I
39 fielded the idea that the verification process only be required on
40 things like Portage.
41
42 Good development takes time.
43
44 Nathan
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Closing bugs [was: New Bugzilla HOWTO] Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@×××××××××××××.uk>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Closing bugs [was: New Bugzilla HOWTO] Marco Matthies <marco-ml@×××.net>