Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE 3.2.3

[Jeff Smelser]

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On Friday 09 July 2004 12:17 pm, Caleb Tennis wrote:
> Your concern is a valid one.  The simple fact is that we are short handed.
> This is true for all of Gentoo, not just KDE.   I've been spending my time
> the past few weeks testing 3.3.0_beta1, not running 3.2.3.  I've upgrade
> kdenetwork with the patched kopete since this time as well.   There's no
> main reason KDE has sat in ~x86 this long other than I simply haven't
> gotten around to bumping it.  The fact is that, with the way portage is
> structured and the commands you have to use to properly make the
> submittals, it takes me well over an hour to bump a version for KDE.
> Considering the fact that it's volunteer time on my part, it gets put down
> on my priority list.

An hour to bump? That seems out of hand.  And no, I am not saying YOUR taking 
to long. :) The process itself

> So, if you want to be part of the solution, start being proactive in
> helping to fix bugs and get ebuilds submitted.

I am kinda laughing when I say this. I don't because I have seen ebuilds sit 
in bugs.g.o for months. No one wants to pick them up because they don't have 
time to maintain more. I got sysklogd-sql I would love to submit and 
maintain. I am afraid if will sit in bugs.gentoo.org though. 

> It just so happens that the point you make gets made quite frequently, be
> it on a mailing list, in IRC or in bugs.g.o, and it gets to be a bit
> frustrating to have to try and explain over and over again.  I'm not upset
> or mad or anything at you, I understand where you're coming from with your
> post, but look at things the other way around: some of us developers have
> been doing this "volunteer" job for a long time now; it's a bit frustrating
> with someone comes along and basically throws out a "someone really should
> be more on top of this" attitude, which is what is perceived.

Its not. Its a look into how this process can be quicker, yes, but I am here 
to help if I am needed. But just like you said, which is what I was afraid 
of, 3.2.3 is ready, its just not been done. 

I have seen on this list before, why not create some automated way of bumping 
ebuild that have sitting untouched for x number of days? You can still 
release it early if need be but it can help out on the forgotten or no time 
for ebuilds that sit?

> That said, there's absolutely no harm in kde sitting as ~x86 for 3.2.3.
> It's still completely installable, and portage is configurable enough so as
> to not complain to you to downgrade.

But this becomes rather cumbersome having to do this all the time. Again, kde 
isn't the only one having this issue.

Jeff
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