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From: Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/qa: index.xml
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:59:08
Message-Id: 4DFB16E3.3080801@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/qa: index.xml by Mike Frysinger
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4 On 17/06/2011 03:30 πμ, Mike Frysinger wrote:
5 > On Monday, June 13, 2011 19:09:06 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
6 >> On 11-06-2011 20:48, Mike Frysinger wrote:
7 >>> On Saturday, June 11, 2011 16:24:00 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
8 >>>> On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:58:43 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
9 >>>>>> So, effectively the QA team lead can appoint the people who elect
10 >>>>>> him. I'm not at all implying that Diego would abuse his position,
11 >>>>>> but still I think that this is not a sane situation.
12 >>>>>
13 >>>>> it does seem trivial to remove people who disagree with you and thus
14 >>>>> cement an echo chamber
15 >>>>
16 >>>> Are you talking in a hypothetical future situation, or has this already
17 >>>> happened? If so, can you point to an example of where Diego's been
18 >>>> removing people for disagreeing with him, rather than for disagreeing
19 >>>> with the Council?
20 >>>
21 >>> how is disagreeing with a Council decision valid grounds either ?
22 >>> punting people because they disagree with any group isn't really valid.
23 >>
24 >> It was not about disagreeing with Council but actively going against an
25 >> approved policy when the team is responsible for enforcing policies in
26 >> the tree.
27 >>
28 >> This is why in my proposal for the review of GLEP 48 I added a point
29 >> stating that acting against established policies would constitute ground
30 >> to be removed from the team.
31 >
32 > that isnt what Ciaran said, and what you describe no one has shown me doing.
33 > thus the only logical conclusions that one can draw from this:
34 > - Diego mistakenly removed me without knowing all the facts
35 > or
36 > - i was removed for purely voicing disagreement
37 > -mike
38
39 This is exactly what I've trying to explain in many many e-mails. You
40 and Samuli agreed to follow the policy. Not removing old packages does
41 *NOT* violate the policy. I am not sure why this is so hard for someone
42 to understand the difference. This is reason why I left as well. Because
43 you were removed with no proof of policy violation.
44
45 - --
46 Regards,
47 Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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