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On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 11:36:33AM +0100, Róbert Čerňanský wrote: |
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> On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:26:29 +0100 |
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> David Seifert <soap@g.o> wrote: |
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> > Round 2 (with correct whitespace this time): |
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> > Title: No stable KEYWORDS for Gentoo Games |
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> > Author: David Seifert <soap@g.o> |
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> > Content-Type: text/plain |
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> > Posted: 2017-11-20 |
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> > Revision: 1 |
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> > News-Item-Format: 1.0 |
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> > Display-If-Keyword: amd64 x86 |
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> > |
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> > As the Games team does not have enough manpower to keep tabs on all |
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> > games packages, we have dropped all ebuilds maintained by the games |
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> > project to unstable KEYWORDS (without those required by other stable |
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> > packages). If you have any of these stable games packages installed, |
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> > you will have to add them to /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords/ |
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> > manually. Failures related to missing stable KEYWORDS will show up as |
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> > |
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> > The following keyword changes are necessary to proceed: |
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> > (see "package.accept_keywords" in the portage(5) man page for more |
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> > details) |
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> > # required by @selected |
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> > # required by @world (argument) |
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> > =games-action/0verkill-0.16-r4 ~amd64 |
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> > |
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> > While we accept that this will cause some irritation for the |
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> > community, pretending we have a well supported games collection by |
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> > having a wealth of stable games packages is misleading at best. We |
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> > welcome contributions from outsiders willing to polish up the games |
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> > landscape in Gentoo via the Proxy Maintainers. |
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> What does it mean for the future? Should not users bother to test & |
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> write stabilization request bugs for games anymore? Or stabi |
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> requests will still be accepted? |
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> Robert |
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> -- |
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> Róbert Čerňanský |
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> E-mail: openhs@×××××××××.com |
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> Jabber: hs@××××××.sk |
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If I may take a stab at this (correct me if I'm wrong, soap): |
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It only means games are being dropped to ~arch (testing) until other |
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maintainers (proxy or otherwise) step up to make sure the games really |
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are stable. Packages that rarely get attention but are still marked |
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"stable" dilutes the meaning of "stable", especially if you get |
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installation or runtime problems that a proper testing of the package |
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would have caught. |
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This results in bugs that should've been caught in the testing phase, |
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confuses users (and developers), and redundant or obvious bugs being |
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reported. |
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This reads like a "fresh slate" for games, allowing them to start from |
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~arch and ensure that stabilization procedures are correctly followed by |
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those who step up. While this will create more stabilization bugs, it |
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should, in theory, result in better ebuilds (which makes Gentoo |
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maintenance better/easier) and games that have *actually* been tested. |
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I hope this explanation is both accurate and helpful. |
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~zlg |
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