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On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 14:01 +0100, Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen wrote: |
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> On Tuesday 13 March 2007 13:32, Paul de Vrieze wrote: |
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> > First of all, I think most part of the code is just common sense. That's |
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> > also the reason that it is not explicit about many things. Strictly defined |
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> > rules don't apply in all situations, and jerks find ways around them or to |
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> > argue that the rule does not apply to them. |
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> I agree. |
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> -However I fail to see which channels are affected and which are not? |
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We should be enforcing this on all channels. It shouldn't be "OK" to be |
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an asshole on one medium and not another. |
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> -What are the appeal options if any? |
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Council. |
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> So the current situation is: We have both devs and non-devs disregard normal |
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> code of conduct. We have a written policy about dev behaviour but haven't |
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> enforced it on several occasions so now we are going to try regulating the |
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> users instead? Shouldn't we just try to behave ourselves before trying to |
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> make others behave? |
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Uhh, no. This gets enforced on devs and users alike. |
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> As long as Devrel doesn't have the power to enforce it I don't see a point. If |
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> the Council has the power to enforce this fairly, then great. |
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As many people have stated before, the Council really has as much power |
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as its willing to take. Up until now, we've been very leery of taking |
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on any form of power to reduce the chance of people calling us some kind |
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of cabal. At the same time, we've realized that we were elected to do |
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*exactly this sort of thing* so we've decided collectively to "step up" |
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and take charge. If people don't like it, they can vote for other |
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people next time around. ;] |
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> As for -dev you're right. But again the proposal is so vague it only mentions |
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> "Gentoo's official communication infrastructure". I take this to mean all |
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> mailing lists, forums, IRC. So in my eyes it will affect general users as |
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> well. |
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I look at anything with a gentoo.org address as our house. While some |
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might disagree with this statement, I'm pretty sure this is the stance |
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we're taking on it. |
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Chris Gianelloni |
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Release Engineering Strategic Lead |
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Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams |
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Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee |
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Gentoo Foundation |
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