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On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 06:29:03PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: |
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> Quite frankly, I think that with a properly run community, there should |
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> be no need for a "Developer Relations" project, since it should be |
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> mostly self-policing. |
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With 300+ people, i severely doubt self policing would work. I assume |
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you were mostly thinking about conflict resolution when you wrote |
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this, but there are other things like |
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- recruitment |
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- retirement of developers that |
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- quit |
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- go AWOL |
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etc. |
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In an ideal world with a self-policing community this could work out, |
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however i rather tend to assume one of these things happen in the real |
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world: |
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- People get recruited by anyone in whatever way and have no idea about |
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our policies, breaking the tree in their first commit. |
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- Developers retire and no one removes their access due to lack of |
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procedure |
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- Devs go AWOL, no one notices. If someone notices, perhaps he starts |
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volunteering doing this kind of clean-up work, and technically a new |
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devrel project emerges. |
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> Beyond that, the leadership should have the power |
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> and the ability to take care of problems in a timely manner without the |
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> need for droves of bureaucratic process. |
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The process (http://dev.gentoo.org/~plasmaroo/policy.xml) is |
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reorganized and should fulfill both your concern for a timely manner |
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and is much less bureaucratic. |
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Also, there's a lot of stuff happening other than the conflict |
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resolution stuff with regard to ombudsman and often kloeri resolving |
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things - you don't read that on the news, but i'm not sure if council |
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members should spend a lot of their time to resolve silly conflicts |
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between devs, they're elected make decisions, not obsolete devrel. ;-) |
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Btw, the new policy also includes the possibility of refering a |
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decision to the council in certain cases, see "Resolution and Appeal". |
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> I'm sure nearly every member |
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> of devrel would agree that they would love to see a Gentoo where devrel |
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> simply wasn't needed. |
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I assume you're only refering to conflict resolution again, and i |
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agree it would be great. I just don't think this is ever going to |
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happen as long there are more than 50 developers. |
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cheers, |
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Wernfried |
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Wernfried Haas (amne) - amne at gentoo dot org |
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